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Old 06-01-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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1298 shooting victims in Chicago in 2021 - already surpassing last year's entire total by almost 300.

Black folks are ruining our own opportunity for creating wealth.

And to make things worse, these folks will elect the same people who are content to sit back and let black folk in Chicago kill themselves.

Tulsa Shmulsa...
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Try some real facts its 256 not 1200+...
https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/
Shooting victims include those dead and injured... just like rape victims include those dead and inured.

Don't blame me if you have trouble defining words properly.
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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Here’s another. The Ocoee Massacre in 1920...

https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/ocoee-massacre/
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Here’s another. The Elaine Massacre in 1919...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ans-180969863/
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And another, the Clinton Massacre...

https://www.facinghistory.org/recons...ssissippi-1875
What should we do with these incidents from 100 years ago?

The U.S. has nuked Japan since then, and we have mended fences for the most part.

Do you perpetually want to hold a grudge?
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:51 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What should we do with these incidents from 100 years ago?

The U.S. has nuked Japan since then, and we have mended fences for the most part.

Do you perpetually want to hold a grudge?
Well until this year the other 99 "anniversaries" of this never even hit the media.
This is right up there with Juneteenth..a Texas celebration that is now nationwide.

The division of races is being stoked by media and our government at every chance.


Just remember......a nation divided will fall.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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> Claims history should be portrayed ACCURATELY
> Proceed to give an INACCURATE portrayal of history.


The Black mob DID NOT try to break the accused out of jail. The Black mob was there to ensure that the white mob did not try to take the accused from police custody and lynch him. A year prior to the Tulsa Massacre, a 19-year old Black male (Roy Belton) who had been recently arrested for hijacking and murder was forcibly removed from a Tulsa Courthouse by an armed White mob. The mob took Belton to a secluded area and lynched him. Afterward, armed Black residents of Tulsa decided that they would be outside the courthouse if this were to ever happen again.

The name change from "The Tulsa Riot" to "The Tulsa Massacre" came about because the former was a whitewashed account of the incident, which understated what happened in Tulsa. When people think of "riot" they simply think of the destruction of private/public property by a disobedient mob with a sprinkle of physical assault.

When an angry mob of people starts indiscriminately shooting innocent people for no reason, dropping bombs on them, forcing white families to hand over their black employees, and parading Black people's lifeless body's around in celebration, then you are no longer in "riot" territory. You are in full-blown massacre/domestic terrorism territory.
{shrug} I'm sure there are contemporary eyewitness accounts that will support either version of the events. A 2001 examination of the records indicated 39 dead, 26 blacks and 13 whites. That's just a busy weekend in Chicago and Detroit and LA.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No one knows for sure what the death toll was as it's been muddied by inconsistencies. What you gave is the low ball number.

The Tulsa Tribune shortly after the massacred happened put the death toll at 176.
The Governor of Oklahoma at the time said 75
The Police major of Tulsa said 175.
The NAACP said 200+
The Red Cross said anywhere between 55-300

The 2001 Oklahoma Commission even had multiple contradictions, with some saying 39 died, and others saying anywhere from 100-300 died. The moral of the story is that we don't know for sure, and probably never will.

Regardless of how many people died, that many people dying in a small neighborhood in a medium-sized city over racial issues, is very different from a bunch of gangs playing "wack a mole" with each other throughout a metropolitan area with 2+ million people. If you can't discern the distinction between the two, then I don't know what to tell you.
One thing we do know for sure. That little town was wiped out. Note the complete devastation. It looks look Hiroshima after the bomb.


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Old 06-01-2021, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Lol @ christians killing black people like they did to the American Indians
What a rubbish analogy.


That would be like blaming all Jews for the 150 million corpses produced by Karl Marx's ideology or the hundreds of thousands of Americans that were killed or maimed because of Henry Kissinger or Bill Kristol and the wars they were architects of.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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But was it justified?

According to the whites, a black man from that neighborhood raped a white girl and then the blacks killed 10 white men trying to have the rapist lynched.

If you didn't trust the other race, and you thought them inferior, what would your reaction be?

Or maybe there was no rape and it was just assault, but it is all a matter of perspective.
There may not have even been an assault.
Rowland was 19 years old at the time. The alleged victim of the assault was a white, 17-year-old, elevator operator Sarah Page. According to conflicting reports, the arrest was prompted after Rowland tripped in Page's elevator on his way to a segregated bathroom, and a white store clerk reported the incident as an "assault" or a rape. The charges against the young man -- were dismissed because the young lady REFUSED to press charges.

The night the young man was arrested black and white descended on the court house and one confrontation ended up with a white man dead. We have no clue if it was self defense or what happened.

And then the attack on the community began and continued for days.

Even if there had been 10 white men killed.....does that justify destroying a whole community?

Racism at the core of all of this -- and none of it justified destroying a community over.

Dylan Roof walked into a church and killed 9 Black people. Would you have accepted black people descending on Roof's hometown and destroying it because they would be 'scared'?
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Or maybe a white mob was simply trying to stop a black mob from breaking a prisoner out of jail, which is what started the entire incident in the first place, and then it cartwheeled out of control.

Too many people are trying to read into this 100 yr old incident with their own modern biases.
You obviously didn't watch the documentary...a blackman was accused of a crime...the papers called for his lynching, whites tried to get into the courthouse to lynch him and blacks showed up to try and protect him...they never tried to break him out.
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:05 AM
 
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I'm shocked to see how folks are trying to justify the massacre. Seriously something is wrong here.
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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I'm shocked to see how folks are trying to justify the massacre. Seriously something is wrong here.
Im shocked. How many are justifying what?
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