[Rubi3]

Originally Posted by okie1962

Everyone has a personal agenda.

Amen to that.

[nightbird47]

It's interesting that the real oh xxxx moment was when someone realized if he hadn't smashed the commandments, he could have just as easily driven right into the building. The equiptment to help was sitting on the lawn due to lazy mowers. Now they're talking more about security than bible stuff.

Maybe now that its real purpose was accomplished, and its gone, we can leave the grounds sans reminders of religious intolerance. If they must, have something which has a symbol for EVERY faith including the ones we don't like and for those who don't believe to show any of them are acceptable. Maybe they can take the 'repair' to a church where it belongs.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by Rubi3

Yes, politicians have personal agendas. So do members of discussion forums.

Heeeeee!

Yes Ma'am, and my agenda at this moment is a little Jack & Coke. C'mon.

EDIT:
The devil made me do it, but I don't want his ugly mug at the State Capitol.

[Rubi3]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

Heeeeee!

Yes Ma'am, and my agenda at this moment is a little Jack & Coke. C'mon.

EDIT:
The devil made me do it, but I don't want his ugly mug at the State Capitol.

I don't either and if his so-called image appeared I would be all for vandalism. Betcha a democrat would be the perp. I say it freely cause I'm registered as one, but I've never ever stamped the rooster.

A bit of rum and coca cola is more up my alley.

[StillwaterTownie]

The monument ought to be replaced by monument to the Bill or Rights. Oklahoma legislators need such a monument to remind them they have been passing too many unconstitutional bills. I wouldn't donate to fund a new Ten Commandments monument, but I would for a monument with the Bill or Rights engraved on it. The Bill of Rights is far more significant to our country's founding and history than the Ten Commandments.

Let the churches worry, or not, whether it's appropriate to position a Ten Commandments monument on their property for public viewing.

[Rubi3]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

The monument ought to be replaced by monument to the Bill or Rights. Oklahoma legislators need such a monument to remind them they have been passing too many unconstitutional bills. I wouldn't donate to fund a new Ten Commandments monument, but I would for a monument with the Bill or Rights engraved on it. The Bill of Rights is far more significant to our country's founding and history than the Ten Commandments.

Let the churches worry, or not, whether it's appropriate to position a Ten Commandments monument on their property for public viewing.

Engraving those rights on a cross would be ideal... just for a touch of confusion.

[leavingIL]

The argument for this is that this was founded as a Christian country, and that MOST modern, Western legal codes are loosely based on the Ten Commandments.

This is wrong. The western legal code is largely based on a Lockean theory of property rights.

It should also be noted that almost none of the founders were religious.

[Rubi3]

Maybe the legislators will take heed and study up on ole John Locke's theories and get everything on the right track.

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

The monument ought to be replaced by monument to the Bill or Rights. Oklahoma legislators need such a monument to remind them they have been passing too many unconstitutional bills. I wouldn't donate to fund a new Ten Commandments monument, but I would for a monument with the Bill or Rights engraved on it. The Bill of Rights is far more significant to our country's founding and history than the Ten Commandments.

Let the churches worry, or not, whether it's appropriate to position a Ten Commandments monument on their property for public viewing.

Yes, this is what needs to be there. Let private money fix the black chunks of rock and put it up again, but at a *church* not the state capital. Religion shouldn't be sitting on the state captial lawn. And if it is an if you don't want a stanic monument next to it, then boot out both. Freedom to choose your own religion means that there is under law no one RIGHT faith. Maybe a plack with a symbol of every religion including a space for the athiests. All equal and right under the law, which is what the state capital represents.

I think the state ought to be giving heavy thought about what it says about their lax security and how to fix that since if the truck hadn't smashed into the monument it might well have smashed into a wall of the a building. With tracks to drive on provided by the mowing people....

That is the state's business. Don't put another attractact sitting on the lawn either.

[_redbird_]

"In Bob Stoops We Trust " would be more ideal.