az illegal immigrant law (homes, landscaping, construction) - Ohio (OH) - City-Data Forum

1watertiger · 05-01-2010, 07:04 AM

how do the people of ohio feel about the new law? for it or against? why?

CortlandGirl79 · 05-01-2010, 09:28 AM

I don't know the details of the law, but any law that sends illegals back to where they came from is fine with me. I understand many illegals are good/hardworking people, but they are breaking the law and draining our resources, not paying taxes and getting away with things they shouldn't be. No way should they get welfare, etc and we shouldn't have to pay for them. I think one of the biggest problems is that our own business owners hire this people. They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I know many argue that "americans" won't do the jobs illegals do. Well i'm here to tell you that whoever says that hasn't been to ne ohio. I know plenty of americans working on farms, doing landscaping and yardwork, construction, housekeeping, etc that are lily white and make minimum wage or a tad more. People are willing to do these jobs, the problem is that employers don't want to pay them minimum wage, they want to pay them less and this is why they hire illegals.

EarthBound? · 05-01-2010, 10:00 AM

I'm with you on that one CourtlandGirl79,

If you see or know of any place that has been hiring illegal immigrants, here the number to call.

I.C.E formaly known as I.N.S

Immigration & Customs Enforcement: 1-866-DHS-2-ICE
(347-2423)

I carry this number on me 24hrs a day.

Droolrockworm · 05-01-2010, 12:48 PM

I think you're missing the point. At any time under the new law a police officer MUST ask someone that MIGHT be an illigal for his papers if they can't produce them then they can be arrested for deportation. Hell, why not just make them wear a little yellow star or something so that they don't need to ask. There are legal immigrants in AZ too, but they will have to be asked everytime if they appear to be illegal or the policeman can be sued and fired. I agree that to combat immigration issues you must keep them from being hired illegally thus taking away their reason for crossing illegally. I can't believe that this law can possibly be Constitutional. I am very much in favor of saving American jobs and against illegal immigration but legalized racism is not reasonable...ie. The ends do not justify the means.

Crew Chief · 05-01-2010, 01:44 PM

Droolrockworm, I have to "show my papers" every time I enter a truck weigh station. Every time I get stopped for a roadside inspection. And, when I'm out West, I go through the same immigration checkpoints as everyone else. I have no problems showing my papers. I cannot imagine that law enforcement personnel in AZ will even have time to stop people that they believe are here illegally unless there is another reason to do so. They're so busy doing their normal jobs. But I think it's a GREAT idea that they can check for immigration status when they stop people for other reasons. Seems to me loitering outside of a Home Depot in the morning looking for work oughta fit that bill, too.

I'm married to a woman who jumped through ALL the hoops to become an American citizen. It's a slap in the face to her and EVERYONE else here that has gone to the trouble and expense to follow our laws. We need to do everything possible to make it difficult and uncomfortable for illegal aliens (I'm sorry; I want to barf every time I hear our idiotic media refer to them as "undocumented workers" ) to enter and survive in this country.

bustaduke · 05-01-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Droolrockworm, I have to "show my papers" every time I enter a truck weigh station. Every time I get stopped for a roadside inspection. And, when I'm out West, I go through the same immigration checkpoints as everyone else. I have no problems showing my papers. I cannot imagine that law enforcement personnel in AZ will even have time to stop people that they believe are here illegally unless there is another reason to do so. They're so busy doing their normal jobs. But I think it's a GREAT idea that they can check for immigration status when they stop people for other reasons. Seems to me loitering outside of a Home Depot in the morning looking for work oughta fit that bill, too.

I'm married to a woman who jumped through ALL the hoops to become an American citizen. It's a slap in the face to her and EVERYONE else here that has gone to the trouble and expense to follow our laws. We need to do everything possible to make it difficult and uncomfortable for illegal aliens (I'm sorry; I want to barf every time I hear our idiotic media refer to them as "undocumented workers" ) to enter and survive in this country.

k:

I would give you a thousand of them if I could, GREAT POST.

busta

KimFound · 05-01-2010, 02:30 PM

This law is to bar people from just coming over here to have babies right so that their children can be US citizens and then apply for their parents as well when they are old enough. Right I'm not completely sure about it

Fiddlehead · 05-01-2010, 02:51 PM

Great you are having this discussion. I tried to post it to the Maine forum and it was deleted. Keep it up.

EarthBound? · 05-01-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Droolrockworm, I have to "show my papers" every time I enter a truck weigh station. Every time I get stopped for a roadside inspection. And, when I'm out West, I go through the same immigration checkpoints as everyone else. I have no problems showing my papers. I cannot imagine that law enforcement personnel in AZ will even have time to stop people that they believe are here illegally unless there is another reason to do so. They're so busy doing their normal jobs. But I think it's a GREAT idea that they can check for immigration status when they stop people for other reasons. Seems to me loitering outside of a Home Depot in the morning looking for work oughta fit that bill, too.

I'm married to a woman who jumped through ALL the hoops to become an American citizen. It's a slap in the face to her and EVERYONE else here that has gone to the trouble and expense to follow our laws. We need to do everything possible to make it difficult and uncomfortable for illegal aliens (I'm sorry; I want to barf every time I hear our idiotic media refer to them as "undocumented workers" ) to enter and survive in this country.

BOOYAH!! And a great big "Kudos" to you for an outstanding post.

Crew Chief · 05-01-2010, 03:08 PM

Legal immigration is a wonderful thing. It has made our country the wonderful nation that it is. The idea that cheap, illegal labor can make some rich at the expense of their fellow Americans is just not right. We are a nation of laws. I don't get the people who think that all the other laws should be obeyed and that we should just look the other way when it comes to illegal aliens. How many of them would let me break into their homes, comandeer one of their bedrooms, mooch their food and other proerty and sit around all day, smoking dope? Why is that any different than letting illegals flood into this country and suck up all our resources that WE have to pay for??? And why in the world aren't Hispanic Americans and legal immigrants screaming bloody murder instead of marching in the streets? It's THEIR jobs these lawbreakers are getting. As well as lowering the wages of ALL workers.

Maybe the answer is temporary AGRICULTURAL visas that foreigners can get to come into this country and work in the fields. THAT'S a job most Americans won't do. The other jobs like construction, trucking, and many others WOULD be done byu Americans if they were paid a living wage.