Which of the three C's do you think will be the most dominant power in all of Ohio by 2050? (Columbus: 2013, live)

[Trafalgar Law]

Between Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati and I do mean their entire metropolitan/combined statistical areas included and all.

It's a pretty self-explanatory question. Which of the three cities/metropolitan areas do you think will be the face of Ohio by mid-century?

As in will be the most populous area, the most influential area, attracting the most people from outside of Ohio, culturally and economically influence the state most?

[motorman]

Strictly deja vu, RJ. This 21st-century "3-C Peloponnesian War" has been fought so many times before that many of our combatants are exhausted. Therefore, wouldn't it be easier if all of us just sent you our standard homeboy-PR, while you go enjoy "300-Rise of An Empire" (especially, Eva Green)?

[jbcmh81]

There are too many variables to really say anything definitive about the 3-Cs respective positions almost 36 years from now. However, here are my general ideas:

-All 3 of them will be growing. Columbus continuously, Cincinnati has already started to again, and by then Cleveland should be as well. Best case scenario for city population: Cincinnati: 330,000-350,000, Cleveland: 395,000-415,000, Columbus: 1M-1.1M.
-Columbus will still be the largest city, and perhaps by then the largest metro, but Cleveland will retain the largest CSA by quite a bit.
-Economically, they should all be pretty close, as they are now. I couldn't say for sure which one would be ahead.
-I think Columbus will still be the place that attracts the most non-Ohioans, as it does now.
-Having the most influence, I have no idea. They all have influence, just in different things and in different ways. This would be too subjective to really quantify for me. Same with culture. It just depends on what is valued.

[ohioaninsc]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

There are too many variables to really say anything definitive about the 3-Cs respective positions almost 36 years from now. However, here are my general ideas:

-All 3 of them will be growing. Columbus continuously, Cincinnati has already started to again, and by then Cleveland should be as well. Best case scenario for city population: Cincinnati: 330,000-350,000, Cleveland: 395,000-415,000, Columbus: 1M-1.1M.
-Columbus will still be the largest city, and perhaps by then the largest metro, but Cleveland will retain the largest CSA by quite a bit.
-Economically, they should all be pretty close, as they are now. I couldn't say for sure which one would be ahead.
-I think Columbus will still be the place that attracts the most non-Ohioans, as it does now.
-Having the most influence, I have no idea. They all have influence, just in different things and in different ways. This would be too subjective to really quantify for me. Same with culture. It just depends on what is valued.

I would hope Cincy would be able to get back to near the 400K in the city, and Cleveland could get near the 500k mark...Columbus around 1.1 mil makes sense. Metros will hopefully be about the same...all w/in a 100K of each other....hopefully by then we can have a high speed rail connection between the 3...hopefully we get more trave l between the cities that can lead to less animosity and more collaboration and working together...

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by Red John

Between Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati and I do mean their entire metropolitan/combined statistical areas included and all.

It's a pretty self-explanatory question. Which of the three cities/metropolitan areas do you think will be the face of Ohio by mid-century?

As in will be the most populous area, the most influential area, attracting the most people from outside of Ohio, culturally and economically influence the state most?

This is a good question, and a much better way to foster discussion than "which is best..."

Speaking as someone who lived in Columbus for about 16 years (mostly as a juvenile) and has only visited Cleveland and Cincinnati, I am going with Cleveland. Cleveland, like my hometown Pittsburgh, at one time in its history, was a peer to New York and Chicago. I see both cities headed back in that direction, not in terms of population, but in terms of the influence their institutions wield over the rest of the world.

As far as being the "face of Ohio", well the fact that people outside of Ohio often have to be reminded that Columbus is a city in the state of Ohio rules out Columbus. I've heard great things about Cincinnati, but again, as far as being the "face of Ohio", Cincinnati never really occurs to the average American unless there is a game involving the Reds or Bengals.

[Cleveland_Collector]

It really shouldn't matter. All 3 areas need to work towards their strengths. With that said, I don't see Cleveland losing the CSA 'battle' anytime soon.

[West_Sider]

I choose Cincinnati because of all of its Fortune 500 companies and a great place for shipping things due to being a days drive to 1/2 the countries population. Cincinnati I think may start growing in the next 1 or two censuses and be at about 340,000-360,000 range. Columbus will have grown to about 1.0 million and more dense. I see Cleveland bottoming out and slowly rise in population to around 400,000. Daytonati may possibly happen by 2050 due to the extensive suburban sprawl development in eastern Butler County and Western Warren County. Cincinnati-Dayton Metroplex would be the states biggest Metro still. Cincinnati and Columbus will be attracting the most people to the state with Columbus attracting a little bit more. Culturally and Economically the Three C's will still be pretty much tied. The most influential area will be either Cincy or Columbus since Daytonati will be a huge area of about 3.2 million and Columbus Metro area will grow to about 2.3-2.5 million.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by West_Sider

I choose Cincinnati because of all of its Fortune 500 companies and a great place for shipping things due to being a days drive to 1/2 the countries population. Cincinnati I think may start growing in the next 1 or two censuses and be at about 340,000-360,000 range. Columbus will have grown to about 1.0 million and more dense. I see Cleveland bottoming out and slowly rise in population to around 400,000. Daytonati may possibly happen by 2050 due to the extensive suburban sprawl development in eastern Butler County and Western Warren County. Cincinnati-Dayton Metroplex would be the states biggest Metro still. Cincinnati and Columbus will be attracting the most people to the state with Columbus attracting a little bit more. Culturally and Economically the Three C's will still be pretty much tied. The most influential area will be either Cincy or Columbus since Daytonati will be a huge area of about 3.2 million and Columbus Metro area will grow to about 2.3-2.5 million.

Interesting. Hamilton County is shrinking so you think up to 70,000 people are going to move into Cincinnati by about 2030? Could happen, one never knows, but you are talking close to 5,000 people each year until 2030. So Cleveland, on the other hand, gets only 10,000 more people to 400,000. Not sure about Cinci being a day's drive to 1/2 the U.S. population either; but then Columbus and Cleveland would qualify as well. Actually, Cincinnati is experiencing a slow rise in population and I expect to Cleveland to begin its population turn this decade, given what is currently going on there.

If you combing Cin-Dayton to be 3.2 million; what about Cleveland-Akron-Youngstown's 4.3 million ''metroplex'' or just Cleveland-Akron's 2.9 million? I would not write-off Cleveland or Northeast Ohio out just yet.

[unusualfire]

^ NO wrong, Hamilton county is gaining aloge with the city of Cincinnati. The census says so.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by unusualfire

^ NO wrong, Hamilton county is gaining aloge with the city of Cincinnati. The census says so.

If by census, meaning 2010, no, it was shrinking. I don't go by 2013 estimates, until it's official, meaning the 2020 census.