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Old 02-14-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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As I said, it was meant as light-hearted humour. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
I think as far cities, economy, roads the two are nearly identical. Ann Arbor and Grand Rapids are far from decaying, Youngstown and Toledo are far from the picture of wealth. Plenty of Ohioans up here also. Can't help but notice the cars as they are driving 10 mph under the speed limit in the left lane everywhere.
Come on, now you are going to re-act when it was all in good humor? Flint, Saginaw, and Detroit are far worse than Youngstown and Toledo. If fact Detroit and Flint have come to Youngstown to study their Youngstown 2010 plan.

You are kidding with the roads. It is clear as day when you go from Ohio to Michigan. Hell, if I was blind and deaf I would be able to tell when I left Michigan and entered Ohio.

Your economy is almost completely reliant on the auto industry and it shows. There may be plenty of Ohioans in Michigan, but there are a hell of a lot more Michiganders in Ohio, not just visiting, but moving here. You want to talk about problem drivers? What about all the Michigan drivers on I-75 in SW Ohio that drive around in their rusty pieces of sh** weaving in and out of traffic.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Oh my god people, reasons to live in Ohio, not NC and it's not about how bad MI sucks.........
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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Party cities don't pay the bills.

The fact of the truth is that it's the businesses that are leaving Ohio and the people are just following the companies.

Our family's business is commercial construction ans we are an established company in SW Ohio. We've seen this happening for a while now, the private work keeps getting more exclusive (not open to any contractors except the sole invited one) and public work is involving mostly new schools which easily can for 20+ million, putting it out of the reach of local companies.
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Our family's business is commercial construction ans we are an established company in SW Ohio. We've seen this happening for a while now, the private work keeps getting more exclusive (not open to any contractors except the sole invited one) and public work is involving mostly new schools which easily can for 20+ million, putting it out of the reach of local companies.
And they wonder why no one wants to pass any new school & city levies. The cities/schools & all other public works should try to keep the locals working first. Because they are the one who put the money back into the communty first.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: MichOhioigan
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Come on, now you are going to re-act when it was all in good humor? Flint, Saginaw, and Detroit are far worse than Youngstown and Toledo. If fact Detroit and Flint have come to Youngstown to study their Youngstown 2010 plan.

And Clev. and Cincy are far worse than GR and AA. Each state has some nice and some not-so-nice cities.

You are kidding with the roads. It is clear as day when you go from Ohio to Michigan. Hell, if I was blind and deaf I would be able to tell when I left Michigan and entered Ohio.

I live in one state and work in the other. I cross the border twice a day. There is no difference in road condition between the two. N. Mich. has some beautiful roads as does SE Ohio. The urban areas in each state that are more prone to seasonal fluctuations in the weather have some rough roads. Btw, they are not "my" roads as you indicated in the earlier post. I'll take credit/criticism for my driveway but that is as far as it goes.

Your economy is almost completely reliant on the auto industry and it shows. There may be plenty of Ohioans in Michigan, but there are a hell of a lot more Michiganders in Ohio, not just visiting, but moving here. You want to talk about problem drivers? What about all the Michigan drivers on I-75 in SW Ohio that drive around in their rusty pieces of sh** weaving in and out of traffic.
Sure Mich. is (was) heavily reliant on the auto industry. But c'mon Ohio is/was also huge into the auto industry as well. These two states are so similar in economy, climate, and culture. Both suffer from the malaise of that all rustbelt states suffer.
Speaking of rust, when was the last time you saw a rusty car? LOL. There isn't that much steel on cars anymore. A common sight in the 70s and 80s but I can't remember the last time I saw a car with any significant amount of rust.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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Cleveland and Cincinnati are worse that Grand Rapids and Ann Arbor?

That's laughable.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:10 AM
 
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I lived in Ohio for 33 years. Really didn't know I loved it, until I had to relocate to Memphis.Hated it there and had to relocate above the Mason Dixon Line! So PA is as close as I could get. I miss Cedar Point and Lake Erie. The smell of corn on a summer night drive. When you see a sign that says "a nice place to live" in a small town it's true. Mohican camping and trails. At least I sound the same here in PA and don't get asked what church I go to as the second question. Being called a "Damn yankee" for two years made me proud to be one! Going to Cleveland to see concerts and Indians games. I don't like football,but still stick up for the Brownies. In the south they said that we're mean and don't wave to our neighbors. That's a lie, in Ohio I knew everyone on my block and could at least walk without my personal safety at risk. Ohio is great, and I can't wait to go visit!
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Cleveland and Cincinnati are worse that Grand Rapids and Ann Arbor?

That's laughable.
Right on! Both Cleveland & Cincinnati are commercial and cultural powerhouses, far larger, dynamic, and diverse than either Grand Rapids or Ann Arbor. Neither GR nor AA should be mentioned in the same sentence with Ohio's 2-C's.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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You all can keep your cities, just give me the country and I'll be happy all the way around . Out here we shoot at four legged animals, in the city the two legged animals shoot at each other.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Except reasons of family what do you search in Ohio ?.
My family is in Pennsylvania, which is why I left Ohio. *sigh*

I'd come back in a heartbeat. The cities are not cramped like a can of sardines, traffic is bearable, the air is (relatively) clean, small towns are friendly, the countryside is fruitful and the cost of living is reasonable.

Does Ohio have problems? Sure. But there are worse places to live.
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