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I wish that the local areas of the Capital Region would do more to celebrate and display black history/black culture in the area. There are a lot of black people in Schenectady, Albany, and Troy. And it's sad that the majority of the black areas are undesirable neighborhoods due to the high crime. Perhaps being proud of being black, just like Italians, Irish, Hispanics celebrate their culture, would lead to lower crime and better social mobility for black people in the Capital Region.
I think it would, but also there needs to be more of a focus on entrepreneurship and education for some. It is interesting that out of the bigger Upstate metros, I couldn't find a predominately Black area with a median household income above the national figure. I think there was an area of two that was close to the criteria near Delaware Ave though.
I think it would, but also there needs to be more of a focus on entrepreneurship and education for some. It is interesting that out of the bigger Upstate metros, I couldn't find a predominately Black area with a median household income above the national figure. I think there was an area of two that was close to the criteria near Delaware Ave though.
I haven't been down near Delaware Ave. recently but off Second Ave. isn't fantastic. Not sure whether or not it's predominantly black but just driving by I do see more blacks than whites down over there. Not really an unsafe feeling neighborhood though so possibly a decent median income.
I haven't been down near Delaware Ave. recently but off Second Ave. isn't fantastic. Not sure whether or not it's predominantly black but just driving by I do see more blacks than whites down over there. Not really an unsafe feeling neighborhood though so possibly a decent median income.
Yeah, your best bets for more diverse(at least relatively), middle class areas are in the nicer parts of the cities or parts of the more diverse suburbs like Menands, Colonie or even Guilderland. Some are posted earlier in the thread. This is the immediate area that comes the closest as it is just over the national median household income and is pluralistically more Black than anything else: Census Block Group 002000-2 in Albany County, New York
I think it would, but also there needs to be more of a focus on entrepreneurship and education for some. It is interesting that out of the bigger Upstate metros, I couldn't find a predominately Black area with a median household income above the national figure. I think there was an area of two that was close to the criteria near Delaware Ave though.
All I believe have Black median HH incomes higher than the neighborhood figure as well. I'll(or others can) try to add some more areas that are similar later.
These are areas that come close to the criteria, one way or another(around 7% and up or roughly 10k less than the national median household income of $53,046), but just miss it(with some possible exceptions that fit): Census Block Group 000600-2 in Broome County, New York
Yeah, your best bets for more diverse(at least relatively), middle class areas are in the nicer parts of the cities or parts of the more diverse suburbs like Menands, Colonie or even Guilderland. Some are posted earlier in the thread. This is the immediate area that comes the closest as it is just over the national median household income and is pluralistically more Black than anything else: Census Block Group 002000-2 in Albany County, New York
Many blacks who work for NYS are solidly middle class or better, and they tend to scatter throughout Albany's "better" neighborhoods or move out to the Albany suburbs, rather than settling in/near the "traditional" black areas of Albany (ie, Arbor Hill). I think this is because so many come from elsewhere, especially NYC.
When I lived in Albany in the 1990s, the suburb of choice for many black state workers was Colonie with its wide choice of neighborhoods in all price ranges and proximity to jobs at various state facilities.
Many blacks who work for NYS are solidly middle class or better, and they tend to scatter throughout Albany's "better" neighborhoods or move out to the Albany suburbs, rather than settling in/near the "traditional" black areas of Albany (ie, Arbor Hill). I think this is because so many come from elsewhere, especially NYC.
When I lived in Albany in the 1990s, the suburb of choice for many black state workers was Colonie with its wide choice of neighborhoods in all price ranges and proximity to jobs at various state facilities.
Yeah, there does seem to be certain towns outside of the cities and certain parts of the cities that get their share of middle class Black residents. It seems like areas near a college/university, regardless of the size of the area, seem to have such residents.
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These are areas that come close to the criteria, one way or another(around 7% and up or roughly 10k less than the national median household income of $53,046), but just miss it(with some possible exceptions that fit):
I'm not familiar with the second group you posted, but I'm pretty sure that the first is NOT a good neighborhood - mostly run-down multi-family rentals (and it is worse east of there - on Gray Street toward Columbia, I believe). Once you go west past...Foster, maybe?...it gets a little better, but it is still on a house-by-house basis, IMHO.
I'm not familiar with the second group you posted, but I'm pretty sure that the first is NOT a good neighborhood - mostly run-down multi-family rentals (and it is worse east of there - on Gray Street toward Columbia, I believe). Once you go west past...Foster, maybe?...it gets a little better, but it is still on a house-by-house basis, IMHO.
It appears to be a mixed income area, which you can view by clicking on the income and careers tag. Walnut is the easternmost street in the area and from what I can see, doesn't look too bad, if not solid. That area median income is only $3-4000 under the national figure and showed a family poverty rate of just over 8%, which is below state/national percentages. However, some of the info may appear to be inconclusive, have some unfavorable/odd figures for some metrics or has even changed. Unfortunately, it is one of the most recent and comprehensive sources of its kind, that seems to correspond generally with US Census information.
Yes, West Elmira is the "rich" section of town. But there is a 7-11 on the corner of Hoffman and Gray where you can score just about any kind of illegal substance at any time of day. Do a Google street-view of the area, and you'll see what I mean....there ARE some nicer homes, and then next door you'll see what was once a beautiful piece of architecture, now chopped up with multiple entrances, a rickety porch and/or roof, and garbage outside! As I said, Water and Gray Streets, along with Church Street, have some gorgeous old homes. However, many of them have deteriorated into multi-family rental units with little to no "pride of ownership" happening. The area is crowded, has persistent crime problems, and is not a first choice for most middle-income families of any race or ethnicity.
Anyway. Didn't mean to take over your thread to point out Elmira's flaws.
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