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View Poll Results: Would you support moving the school year start until the third week of September
Yes - Move the school year until later in September 4 16.67%
No - Keep it the same 20 83.33%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2023, 02:02 PM
 
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instead of giving them sooo much time off at once, there should be longer breaks throughout the year to allow families to travel more, vacation, and visit relatives. For example, there should be 2 weeks off for Christmas, 2 weeks off for Spring Break, a week off in Nov for teachers convention, maybe a couple weeks off in July, and another week off in August (but NOT the entire summer at once). Students forget way too much and teachers have to waste the first 2 months re-teaching everything forgotten over the summer.
Speaking as a veteran of 35 years in education, I think that your idea is a good one.

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Teacher Conventions???
The annual NJEA Convention is held each year for 2 days in November, and it is a good source of educational seminars and--sometimes--free books and other materials from various publishers and suppliers. The convention is held on the Thursday and Friday of the week when election day falls, so most school districts choose to close for the entire week, rather than heating the buildings on Monday, then shutting down the furnaces on Tuesday, firing them up again on Wednesday, and then shutting them down again on Thursday and Friday.
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Old 08-25-2023, 02:07 PM
 
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Speaking as a veteran of 35 years in education, I think that your idea is a good one.



The annual NJEA Convention is held each year for 2 days in November, and it is a good source of educational seminars and--sometimes--free books and other materials from various publishers and suppliers. The convention is held on the Thursday and Friday of the week when election day falls, so most school districts choose to close for the entire week, rather than heating the buildings on Monday, then shutting down the furnaces on Tuesday, firing them up again on Wednesday, and then shutting them down again on Thursday and Friday.
Not a veteran of 35 years but I thank you for your service and being a Teacher is a service to the Country. I do however have a Wife of 44 years who has taught for 37 of those add in two daughters who are also Teachers , one in NC 8 years and one in Md. for 9 and CA. for 7. I can't speak for all but none I know of go to "conventions" now maybe Administrators and such attend I don't know.
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Old 08-25-2023, 02:09 PM
 
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Not a veteran of 35 years but I thank you for your service and being a Teacher is a service to the Country. I do however have a Wife of 44 years who has taught for 37 of those add in two daughters who are also Teachers , one in NC 8 years and one in Md. for 9 and CA. for 7.
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Old 08-25-2023, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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Speaking as a veteran of 35 years in education, I think that your idea is a good one.



The annual NJEA Convention is held each year for 2 days in November, and it is a good source of educational seminars and--sometimes--free books and other materials from various publishers and suppliers. The convention is held on the Thursday and Friday of the week when election day falls, so most school districts choose to close for the entire week, rather than heating the buildings on Monday, then shutting down the furnaces on Tuesday, firing them up again on Wednesday, and then shutting them down again on Thursday and Friday.
My district gives Election Day off too (it always falls the same week as the Convention). There has always been talk about just giving students off that entire week. But, they haven't done it yet.
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Old 08-25-2023, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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LOL, again not the way it works. Teachers and others some Union some not get paid for an 8 hour day or 40hrs a week same with healthcare or pension payments they are based on the work week of that employee, 5 hours overtime comes from where?



Not sure where you got 5 hrs overtime from. But anyway, teachers should be overtime exempt employees anyway so it’s a moot point.
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Old 08-25-2023, 04:31 PM
 
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Not sure where you got 5 hrs overtime from. But anyway, teachers should be overtime exempt employees anyway so it’s a moot point.
You keep talking about Teachers but there are other employees evolved.Teachers are pad for a 40 week but your example makes it a 45 hr OT^ per year. That's a problem.

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It’s a basic math problem. 15 minutes x 180 school days = 2700 minutes

2700 minutes = 45 hrs

45 hrs = ~ 7 School days





Yes I realize you're talking about a full year but my objections point out the problems. 15mins a day is 1.15 a week 5 hours a month at 9 months is 45hours of OT(a year) per employee when the pay scale is a 40 hour work week.

Thing is we are also talking utilities . Many schools bills are less in the summer months as is Insurance due to lack of students and others in the building also is the time of year the maintenance on the building can be done without interrupting school in progress.
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Old 08-25-2023, 04:55 PM
 
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180 days. Figure it out so it benefits the most people (and not just the teachers' preferences).
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Old 08-25-2023, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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You keep talking about Teachers but there are other employees evolved.Teachers are pad for a 40 week but your example makes it a 45 hr OT^ per year. That's a problem.

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It’s a basic math problem. 15 minutes x 180 school days = 2700 minutes

2700 minutes = 45 hrs

45 hrs = ~ 7 School days





Yes I realize you're talking about a full year but my objections point out the problems. 15mins a day is 1.15 a week 5 hours a month at 9 months is 45hours of OT(a year) per employee when the pay scale is a 40 hour work week.

Thing is we are also talking utilities . Many schools bills are less in the summer months as is Insurance due to lack of students and others in the building also is the time of year the maintenance on the building can be done without interrupting school in progress.


If you don’t like the suggestion that’s fine. But let’s not pretend that extending the school day by 15 minutes is some huge undertaking with all sorts of financial and logistical challenges. It’s pretty simple. The hardest part is getting enough people to agree.
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Old 08-26-2023, 06:19 AM
 
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If you don’t like the suggestion that’s fine. But let’s not pretend that extending the school day by 15 minutes is some huge undertaking with all sorts of financial and logistical challenges. It’s pretty simple. The hardest part is getting enough people to agree.

No one is pretending anything. That's the point it is just that. People can agree until they see the mess it will cause.
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Old 08-26-2023, 06:24 AM
 
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180 days. Figure it out so it benefits the most people (and not just the teachers' preferences).
LOL, so you think BOE's and State BOE's really take into considerations of Teachers and what they want? Parents, Administrators, Unions Boss's, students and then way in the back..............................Teachers.
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