Should recreational marijuana be made legal in Minnesota? (Stillwater: 2014, transfer)

[Tyryztoll]

Originally Posted by demtion35

How would recreational MJ be regulated?

I REALLY want to know. HOW is it regulated???

Are you that dense?

Same as alcohol. 21 to purchase. Can't provide to minors. Minor usage a misdemeanor. Can't drive under the influence. Can't work under the influence. Designated places for consumption.

Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

[demtion35]

Originally Posted by Tyryztoll

Are you that dense?

Same as alcohol. 21 to purchase. Can't provide to minors. Minor usage a misdemeanor. Can't drive under the influence. Can't work under the influence. Designated places for consumption.

Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

That is not regulated. (Sorry) Lets pick through what you define as regulated, (In name only) First.

It still does not answer the original question of how it is regulated? What does Designated places only for consumption, actually mean anyway??? What is that? What a bar? I really do not know, tell me.

What type of MJ are we talking about anyway?? The kind you get stoned on??

What? Or something else? What is recreational marijuana anyway? Is it the kind you smoke in a joint, bong, and get high?

AND, just because someone has to be 21 to purchase, that does not mean anything. Nothing. So no there is no control on the stuff. None.

It (along with other things) will destroy peoples lives. And as parents, why would you want to see you son or daughter grow up smoking weed. With all the other problems, they do not all of a sudden decide to drink heavy and smoke weed, and take other drugs for the next 25 years or longer, and not expect to have consequences.

And a lot of them. It is almost a guarantee. So, you know, what is recreational marijuana? What kind is it?

I knew the stuff as called many names. Gold, Hawaiian, Sense, Bud, Columbian, and Home Grown, and many other names. You bought it from a friend who had not even graduated high school yet.

That stuff is not regulated. To say it is is a joke. 6th graders are smoking. Young kids are getting stoned, and it goes on and on.

So is recreational MJ to smoke it and get stoned? What is it? IF it is, it is dangerous, beyond some people will ever realize, unless they have knowledge, heart, determination, and courage. Some do not understand any of it. Never will, but actually experienced ones do.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by demtion35

NO. It should not. It will cause too many problems. It will effect kids, and family. It will do serious harm, or worse, can effect employment, relationships, marriages, so many things, and it is dangerous, it impairs the user. It will be very dangerous.

It should not be legal.

I appreciate the passion but I think you might be misguided here. Most of your arguments seem to rely on the following assumptions:

1) As long as it remains illegal marijuana will be kept away from Minnesota’s populace
2) If made legal, it will cause a large portion of the population to convert overnight into Cheech and Chong, resulting in pervasive reckless use that will put everyone else in imminent danger.
3) Any kind of government control or regulation of sale and distribution of marijuana would be inherently ineffective. Anybody will be able to obtain it. People will be smoking up anywhere and everywhere. There will be no quality control. Kids will be giving it away at their elementary school lunch room, etc.

Of course none of these things are true. It has already been legal in Colorado and Washington for nearly a decade and both states have benefited tremendously from the additional tax revenue. Anyone who currently desires to use marijuana can already do so easily even while it’s illegal. And for those who will only purchase it legally, Illinois is not that far away. It will soon be available in South Dakota too. If you were hoping to shield Minnesotans from the horrors of weed, I’m sorry to say that ship has LONG since sailed.

[wamer27]

Originally Posted by Tyryztoll

Are you that dense?

Same as alcohol. 21 to purchase. Can't provide to minors. Minor usage a misdemeanor. Can't drive under the influence. Can't work under the influence. Designated places for consumption.

Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

Denver by the law book actually has a usage problem. If you followed all the rules as a tourist or non home owner you “legally” can’t smoke in public, in a hotel, rental car. I watched a video about motel that was setup for people to legally smoke on premises. Edibles skirt all these “problems” though. My wife gets medical marijuana here via her glaucoma, but it’s not cheap, $70 per vape cartridge and you can buy as many as you want/afford. If caught selling to anyone else is a felony. But now felony’s don’t seem to mean much if they are even given out anymore.

You can buy hemp delta 8 thc legally in MN now. It’s the same exact thing, I know. CO, CA, OR, WA, etc...all ban it because it because it hurts their marijuana bottom line. I learned about it on a retirement forum on this site.

[tijlover]

As an Ex-Minnesotan, having lived in legal recreational marijuana Nevada, and now in legal recreational marijuana AZ (passed with a Republican Governor and Republican ruled legislature) it completely blows my mind that MN hasn't legalized it. Perhaps the MN Senate has been heavily lobbied by Big Pharma, the Mayo Clinic, enemies of recreational and medical marijuana.

And those in the Minneapolis area? Google Most Conservative Cites in America and you'll find Minneapolis sharing space at the bottom with San Francisco! What an irony? An no recreational marijuana!

I do know if WI legalized it, MN would legalize it the next day. Would they want all the busy traffic on I94 heading to a marijuana dispensary in Hudson, WI? Or those in Duluth going to Superior, and those in Rochester going to Nelson, WI?

[CARas2020]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I appreciate the passion but I think you might be misguided here. Most of your arguments seem to rely on the following assumptions:

1) As long as it remains illegal marijuana will be kept away from Minnesota’s populace
2) If made legal, it will cause a large portion of the population to convert overnight into Cheech and Chong, resulting in pervasive reckless use that will put everyone else in imminent danger.
3) Any kind of government control or regulation of sale and distribution of marijuana would be inherently ineffective. Anybody will be able to obtain it. People will be smoking up anywhere and everywhere. There will be no quality control. Kids will be giving it away at their elementary school lunch room, etc.

Of course none of these things are true. It has already been legal in Colorado and Washington for nearly a decade and both states have benefited tremendously from the additional tax revenue. Anyone who currently desires to use marijuana can already do so easily even while it’s illegal. And for those who will only purchase it legally, Illinois is not that far away. It will soon be available in South Dakota too. If you were hoping to shield Minnesotans from the horrors of weed, I’m sorry to say that ship has LONG since sailed.

Legal in Oregon. Minnesota can follow the guidelines set up in the states that it is legal. Can't smoke it where I live because of a strict no smoking of any kind even vaping is not allowed. It is taxed pretty high but they figure in the tax so you basically pay a flat fee for whatever you want. I use the gummys, and the lotion for my neuropathy in my hands and feet as i have said it from chemotherapy. I have not smoked in so many years and even if i could I probably would not because i also have lung issues again from chemo.

Better go watch Reefer Madness, so you can see the horrible effects of weed :-)

[CARas2020]

Originally Posted by wamer27

Denver by the law book actually has a usage problem. If you followed all the rules as a tourist or non home owner you “legally” can’t smoke in public, in a hotel, rental car. I watched a video about motel that was setup for people to legally smoke on premises. Edibles skirt all these “problems” though. My wife gets medical marijuana here via her glaucoma, but it’s not cheap, $70 per vape cartridge and you can buy as many as you want/afford. If caught selling to anyone else is a felony. But now felony’s don’t seem to mean much if they are even given out anymore.

You can buy hemp delta 8 thc legally in MN now. It’s the same exact thing, I know. CO, CA, OR, WA, etc...all ban it because it because it hurts their marijuana bottom line. I learned about it on a retirement forum on this site.

If you have a medical card in OR it is a little bit cheaper. I never bothered to get a card as I don't mind paying a little more for it.


I just read Nevada is setting up marijuana lounges but they will not be in casinos.

[demtion35]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I appreciate the passion but I think you might be misguided here. Most of your arguments seem to rely on the following assumptions:

1) As long as it remains illegal marijuana will be kept away from Minnesota’s populace
2) If made legal, it will cause a large portion of the population to convert overnight into Cheech and Chong, resulting in pervasive reckless use that will put everyone else in imminent danger.
3) Any kind of government control or regulation of sale and distribution of marijuana would be inherently ineffective. Anybody will be able to obtain it. People will be smoking up anywhere and everywhere. There will be no quality control. Kids will be giving it away at their elementary school lunch room, etc.

Of course none of these things are true. It has already been legal in Colorado and Washington for nearly a decade and both states have benefited tremendously from the additional tax revenue. Anyone who currently desires to use marijuana can already do so easily even while it’s illegal. And for those who will only purchase it legally, Illinois is not that far away. It will soon be available in South Dakota too. If you were hoping to shield Minnesotans from the horrors of weed, I’m sorry to say that ship has LONG since sailed.

Are you talking about the kind of mj that you smoke and get high from? It is your thread?

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by demtion35

Are you talking about the kind of mj that you smoke and get high from? It is your thread?

Yes and yes.

You seem to be implying that full legalization is a foreign concept or something. Do you not realize that it is already fully legal in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont, and Washington? It is also legal in Washington D.C. Oh and the country that borders the U.S. to the north? Yeah it’s fully legal there too, ehhhh.

To be honest Minnesota is late to the game on this one. It should have been legal here 5+ years ago, but I digress.

[gweilo845]

You forgot New York in the list.

It 100% should be legalized. It is ridiculous that it is not. Anti-MJ people should be much more concerned about doctors handing out prescriptions for opiates like Pez. Or tobacco companies disproportionately developing and marketing their products to teens and minorities. Or alcohol companies promoting their product as healthy by using terms like "organic", "low-carb", etc.