Beltrami County says to no to refugee resettlement (Minneapolis, St. Cloud: sales, for rent)

[Tyryztoll]

Thank you, President Trump, for your executive order giving our counties the power to decide this for themselves. I'm sure the other counties that were altered irrevocably forever would have preferred a say in their fate before the dems decided it for them. Imagine that - power in the hands of the people. Maybe ol' Timmy can open up the governors mansion since he thinks the inn is still not full.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/...resettlements/



https://www.kare11.com/article/news/...c-31fb97aa68ee

[Cruz Azul Guy]

I just read an article about this in the Star Tribune:

Some residents say refugees would just make Beltrami County's struggles worse | Star Tribune

What do you mean when you say “altered irrevocably forever?” I guess my experience with refugees has been different because I’ve seen first hand how they can provide value to communities, especially the Hmong population in Saint Paul and the Somali population in Minneapolis. Most people from these groups that I have come into contact with are kind and hard working and I appreciate the diversity they added to the cities.

Here’s a Time article about some of the more notable refugees in the country’s history:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.co...es/%3famp=true

Albert Einstein was a refugee!

[2x3x29x41]

A couple points of note:

1) Legal residents of the United States can move freely about the country. United States citizens possess this constitutional right (as repeatedly upheld by the United States Supreme Court) and under Amendment XIV all legally-residing non-citizens enjoy all constitutional rights not specifically delegated to citizens only (most rights are bestowed upon all persons, not limiting them to citizens - the Constitution takes care to specify). The current executive order allowing counties/states to 'prohibit' refugee resettlement actually is simply an order that the federal government will not undertake refugee resettlement, nor coordinate it with private or state agencies, in jurisdictions that vote to reject it). Private resettlement organizations are still free to work to resettle refugees anywhere, and legal residents of any sort are free to settle wherever they wish within the United States.

2) This is all a kabuki dance because Beltrami County hasn't seen any refugee settlement in many years. Beltrami vowing not to host refugees is roughly the equivalent of Venezuela vowing that it will refuse to host the Olympics.

[Tyryztoll]

Originally Posted by 2x3x29x41

This is all a kabuki dance because Beltrami County hasn't seen any refugee settlement in many years. Beltrami vowing not to host refugees is roughly the equivalent of Venezuela vowing that it will refuse to host the Olympics.

Don't give me that. The dems have proven they'll dump east African refugees into any and all communities they can get them into. I doubt places like Willmar, Fairbault and Worthington had seen an influx of refugees in years when they suddenly became inundated - without any say on their behalf, of course. Trump is the only reason this hasn't continued en masse, and the next dem President will surely hit the restart button once Trump is gone.

To Cruz Azul: when I say altered irrevocably forever I am referring to the dems poorly veiled tactics in correlation with FORCED diversity, which is what this is REALLY all about. They couldn't care less about providing safe haven and better lives for these east Africans, they want them here because of their skin color - because Minnesota is TOO WHITE and that's SO unacceptable in a modern society. Others have been too scared to say it, but I'm not. Mark Dayton threw down the gauntlet when he made it clear his sole purpose of bringing Somalians here was to alter the racial landscape of this state and any way you slice it that is WRONG - akin to going to Nigeria and saying "you know, it's too black here, we need to import some whites for better diversity." Yeah, right....you guys wanna talk about what's going on, let's drop the BS and talk about what's really going on and knock of this drivel about these immigrants adding "value" to said communities.

[knke0204]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I just read an article about this in the Star Tribune:

Some residents say refugees would just make Beltrami County's struggles worse | Star Tribune

What do you mean when you say “altered irrevocably forever?” I guess my experience with refugees has been different because I’ve seen first hand how they can provide value to communities, especially the Hmong population in Saint Paul and the Somali population in Minneapolis. Most people from these groups that I have come into contact with are kind and hard working and I appreciate the diversity they added to the cities.

Here’s a Time article about some of the more notable refugees in the country’s history:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.co...es/%3famp=true

Albert Einstein was a refugee!

My experiences have been to the contrary.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by knke0204

My experiences have been to the contrary.

Please tell me about it.

[Tyryztoll]

One thing I didn't cover was the totally obvious - that the dems want to truck these refugees in so they can reproduce en masse and eventually bring the rest of their families here, which translates into guess what? VOTES! Nothing more attractive than a guaranteed vote every time around. I think it's pretty safe to say NO east African refugee is EVER gonna vote GOP after the DFL and liberals in Washington basically won the lottery for them and their families by bringing them here and subsidizing their lives. That sort of generosity gets paid back at the ballot box.....pretty convenient don't ya think?

[CCbaxter]

I have a relative that’s a cop in that area. Refugees are lucky.

[MrMinneapolis]

Thanks God. St cloud has turned into mogadishu and it isnt right. Its NOT right going into peoples pockets stealing their tax money and spending it on resettling muslims who we were at war with a short time ago. Go to somalia and u will get ur head cut off. I actually am cool with somali people as i judge people individually but knowing that a refugee is given 1200 a month for rent, free healthcare free social services food stamps etc. ITS NOT RIGHT i dont care if they were white polish or scottish people, its not about the color of the skin but its about the culture and legalitysnof it. Come over fine, in a son of immigrants who came the right way and werent given a single DIME. Americans have the right to vote where their money that they pay in taxes goes and if you disagree with that you are a clown.


This isnt a rally against the somali people, its againt our GOVERNMENT who is screwing Anericans over financially. Do u think the somali population in somalia would pay in to house Americans?? LOL

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Tyryztoll

One thing I didn't cover was the totally obvious - that the dems want to truck these refugees in so they can reproduce en masse and eventually bring the rest of their families here, which translates into guess what? VOTES! Nothing more attractive than a guaranteed vote every time around. I think it's pretty safe to say NO east African refugee is EVER gonna vote GOP after the DFL and liberals in Washington basically won the lottery for them and their families by bringing them here and subsidizing their lives. That sort of generosity gets paid back at the ballot box.....pretty convenient don't ya think?

Are you referring to the federal refugee program as a whole or Minnesota’s state refugee resettlement program? Can you provide any evidence to support this assertion?

Originally Posted by MrMinneapolis

Thanks God. St cloud has turned into mogadishu and it isnt right. Its NOT right going into peoples pockets stealing their tax money and spending it on resettling muslims who we were at war with a short time ago. Go to somalia and u will get ur head cut off. I actually am cool with somali people as i judge people individually but knowing that a refugee is given 1200 a month for rent, free healthcare free social services food stamps etc. ITS NOT RIGHT

Mogadishu you say? Seems a bit of a stretch to me since there are over 68,000 people in St. Cloud and only 1,596 Somalis have been settled in all of Stearns County from 2005-2018. Also, how certain are you that refugee resettlement is causing a huge drain on tax dollars? From reports I’ve read most of the costs are federally funded, including the cash assistance and medical assistance programs which are both 100% federally funded for up to 8 months after arriving in the U.S. Meanwhile if they work they are paying income taxes, their rent or mortgage pays property taxes and all their purchases pay sales taxes, so even though they may get some help initially they are also paying into state and federal tax coffers.

Sources:
https://www.leg.state.mn.us/docs/2018/other/180282.pdf
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sct...amp/1899798001