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View Poll Results: What do you like LEAST about Winter in MN?
Snow 4 11.43%
Cold 16 45.71%
Dark (earlier sunsets) 9 25.71%
Other 6 17.14%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-08-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Some might consider that a benefit. Prince - "the cold keeps the bad people out".
Yeah, if only that were true.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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Yeah, if only that were true.
It's not totally true, but crime does drop significantly during Winter in MN I believe. There's a reason for that.

Does the Cold Stop Crime? It Seems So. NBC News

If it was a warm climate who knows how much worse the crime would be in the Twin Cities.
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Old 11-09-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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I only dislike the early darkness, I do prefer the low angled sunlight- MUCH BETTER compared to the intense overpowering sun found at lower latitudes in many areas of the US. My comfort zone, as I am very light sensitive, is around 46 degrees north latitude at a minimum, hopefully will be able to move north again in a few years.
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Old 11-10-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Snow and cold pretty much ruins the productivity and usefulness for any landscapes that receive them regularly. There's a reason why tropical rainforests are the most enriched, bio-diverse places on the planet. Same reason why most of the world's empires formed in places where snow and cold are nonexistent.

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Old 11-10-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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Snow and cold pretty much ruins the productivity and usefulness for any landscapes that receive them regularly. There's a reason why tropical rainforests are the most enriched, bio-diverse places on the planet. Same reason why most of the world's empires formed in places where snow and cold are nonexistent.
This makes no sense. Please explain why and how snow and cold ruin landscapes, productivity, and usefulness?

Comparing cold regions with Tropical Rain Forests?
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Old 11-10-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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This makes no sense. Please explain why and how snow and cold ruin landscapes, productivity, and usefulness?

Comparing cold regions with Tropical Rain Forests?
It's all about the value of the land. Which is tied to agricultural and QOL productivity, an element not nearly as advanced in colder areas than with places closer to the tropics.
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Old 11-10-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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Snow and cold pretty much ruins the productivity and usefulness for any landscapes that receive them regularly. There's a reason why tropical rainforests are the most enriched, bio-diverse places on the planet. Same reason why most of the world's empires formed in places where snow and cold are nonexistent.
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It's all about the value of the land. Which is tied to agricultural and QOL productivity, an element not nearly as advanced in colder areas than with places closer to the tropics.
These are two of the most ill informed posts ever. In fact, the soil in the rain forest is very poor and is not suitable for agricultural purposes. We farm temperate areas for good reason.

https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/...rests-so-rich/
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Old 11-10-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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These are two of the most ill informed posts ever. In fact, the soil in the rain forest is very poor and is not suitable for agricultural purposes. We farm temperate areas for good reason.

https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/...rests-so-rich/
Nah, so far the deficiencies are taken care of, the subtropical and tropical agriculture blows away anything seen up North. Even though the soil is richer, the colder climate up North truly limits the variety of useful crops that can be grown - no avocados, mangoes, bananas, papayas, etc being grown up North.

And as far as the natural landscape, you can easily pave over the entire Minnesota ecosystem without losing anything of value. Not the case with the tropics, where the forests are dripping with rich, unique biodiversity.

How about civilizations? Why didn't we see Aztec-level civilizations arise up in Minnesota? Why were they all south of the Rio Grande, in tropical Mexico and South America?

It's pretty clear that snow and cold is detrimental to a landscape with regards to productivity, and quality of life. Just some food for thought.
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Old 11-10-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Nah, so far the deficiencies are taken care of, the subtropical and tropical agriculture blows away anything seen up North. Even though the soil is richer, the colder climate up North truly limits the variety of useful crops that can be grown - no avocados, mangoes, bananas, papayas, etc being grown up North.

And as far as the natural landscape, you can easily pave over the entire Minnesota ecosystem without losing anything of value. Not the case with the tropics, where the forests are dripping with rich, unique biodiversity.

How about civilizations? Why didn't we see Aztec-level civilizations arise up in Minnesota? Why were they all south of the Rio Grande, in tropical Mexico and South America?

It's pretty clear that snow and cold is detrimental to a landscape with regards to productivity, and quality of life. Just some food for thought.
Poorly informed. Clearly agriculture is more productive in temperate climates than the rain forest because the soil is of higher quality. The rest of this is BS.

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Old 11-11-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Poorly informed. Clearly agriculture is more productive in temperate climates than the rain forest because the soil is of higher quality. The rest of this is BS.
Once again, when it comes to poor soils, it's entirely a matter on whether or not the deficiencies are addressed. But, do note that with "temperate climates," they are referring more to mild winter areas like California, not really the Midwest.
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