Living near indian reservations... (Shakopee, Cloquet: luxury, casino, living in)

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by David A Stone

and the Indians are rolling in the cash $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.


The Indians pay no income tax due to "sovereign nation" and the white man pays the taxes for the roads that go thru their " sovereign nation" that the Indians' customers use.
What a great deal they have with those cash cow casinos !

Get past Mystic Land and take a trip out to Rosebud SD or up to Red Lake sometime and let us know how many rich people you see.

[David A Stone]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Get past Mystic Land and take a trip out to Rosebud SD or up to Red Lake sometime and let us know how many rich people you see.

Not only Mystic Lake.
Did you forget about Hinkley, Mille Lacs, Morton, Walker, Cloquet or Granite Falls ?

[Ghengis]

The Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux and 2 or 3 other "metro" casinos while quite successful for their few hundred tribal members, is hardly the norm in Minnesota, most of the remaining 14 outstate casinos are located in rural areas and do not have the advantages of drawing regular customers from metropolitan areas. The vast majority of the estimated 100,000 NAs in Minnesota are still living in abject poverty.


Dispelling the Myths About Indian Gaming - Native American Rights Fund : Native American Rights Fund


https://www.minnpost.com/politics-po...n-reservations

[David A Stone]

Originally Posted by Ghengis

The Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux and 2 or 3 other "metro" casinos while quite successful for their few hundred tribal members, is hardly the norm in Minnesota, most of the remaining 14 outstate casinos are located in rural areas and do not have the advantages of drawing regular customers from metropolitan areas. The vast majority of the estimated 100,000 NAs in Minnesota are still living in abject poverty.


Dispelling the Myths About Indian Gaming - Native American Rights Fund : Native American Rights Fund


https://www.minnpost.com/politics-po...n-reservations

Seems like everytime I went to the casino at Walker they were adding on.


Same is true for the one at Granite Falls.
They even built a huge new casino since I first started going there.


As I stated, it isn't just the casino in Shakopee that is brining in the cash $$$$$$$$$$$$


( and no income tax is paid on the profits to the govt that built the roads leading to the casino )

[TimtheGuy]

Originally Posted by David A Stone

Seems like everytime I went to the casino at Walker they were adding on.


Same is true for the one at Granite Falls.
They even built a huge new casino since I first started going there.


As I stated, it isn't just the casino in Shakopee that is brining in the cash $$$$$$$$$$$$


( and no income tax is paid on the profits to the govt that built the roads leading to the casino )

Just because the tribes expand the business does not necessarily equate to large profit sharing for tribe members. As stated above, only a couple of MN's tribes receive large per capita payouts (Mystic Lake and Treasure Island). A couple more might make a 'living' off their casino's profit sharing. Leaving the majority who receive a few thousand $$/yr.

While the casinos themselves are not taxed, the individual tribe members do pay income tax on the income they receive from the profit sharing.

[David A Stone]

Originally Posted by Ghengis

The Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux and 2 or 3 other "metro" casinos while quite successful for their few hundred tribal members, is hardly the norm in Minnesota, most of the remaining 14 outstate casinos are located in rural areas and do not have the advantages of drawing regular customers from metropolitan areas. The vast majority of the estimated 100,000 NAs in Minnesota are still living in abject poverty.


Dispelling the Myths About Indian Gaming - Native American Rights Fund : Native American Rights Fund


https://www.minnpost.com/politics-po...n-reservations

I believe it stated tribal members in the Mille Lacs band " only " receive $900 per month.


That is more than many poor whites in that area receive after paying into SS.


( and the tribal members don't have to be 62 to draw that monthly check )

[Citykid3785]

Below is not my view of Native Americans, but rather my anecdotal review of the reservation I lived next to for several years:
I lived next to the Lac Du Flambeau reservation in north central wisconsin, which had a moderately successful casino. The Native Americans attended our high school, and I played sports against them in middle school. The reservation was responsible for much of the drug use and crime in the area (and my nephew!, as my sister got pregnant with a guy from the reservation at 16). They were known as a sports team that would employ dirty tactics. For instance, in 6th grade baseball, they would peg hitters at will......me included. I also remember some of them spitting in their hands before the "good game" courtesy hand shake after the game.

Driving on the reservation, you saw very standardized cheap looking houses, followed by tons of toys bought with reservation money. It seemed every house had 5 snowmobiles, several cars, a boat, etc. They got paid just enough money to get by without doing anything. They had different laws (spear fishing rights for instance) and their own tribal police known to look the other way, drawing a further divide. You otherwise never went to the reservation unless you had to, like for a sporting event.

Back to my nephew, even though his dead beat dad left him from day one (my sister is a dead beat mom as well to be fair....), my nephew does receive funds from the reservation (even though we've long moved away and he otherwise has never had anything to do with the reservation). Upon graduating, he got about $40K, plus he gets medical and college tuition benefits going forward.

[wamer27]

Originally Posted by Citykid3785

Below is not my view of Native Americans, but rather my anecdotal review of the reservation I lived next to for several years:
I lived next to the Lac Du Flambeau reservation in north central wisconsin, which had a moderately successful casino. The Native Americans attended our high school, and I played sports against them in middle school. The reservation was responsible for much of the drug use and crime in the area (and my nephew!, as my sister got pregnant with a guy from the reservation at 16). They were known as a sports team that would employ dirty tactics. For instance, in 6th grade baseball, they would peg hitters at will......me included. I also remember some of them spitting in their hands before the "good game" courtesy hand shake after the game.

Driving on the reservation, you saw very standardized cheap looking houses, followed by tons of toys bought with reservation money. It seemed every house had 5 snowmobiles, several cars, a boat, etc. They got paid just enough money to get by without doing anything. They had different laws (spear fishing rights for instance) and their own tribal police known to look the other way, drawing a further divide. You otherwise never went to the reservation unless you had to, like for a sporting event.

Back to my nephew, even though his dead beat dad left him from day one (my sister is a dead beat mom as well to be fair....), my nephew does receive funds from the reservation (even though we've long moved away and he otherwise has never had anything to do with the reservation). Upon graduating, he got about $40K, plus he gets medical and college tuition benefits going forward.

A good friend of mine's parents have a nice log house (cabin to them) on this reservation on the lake with the casino (no clue how they were allowed to buy the land not being Native Americans?) The houses wouldn't have garages, but tons of toys littering the yards. We would boat to the casino, and we were told to keep your eye out when at the few bars in town and told stories on why. We also saw night spear fishing all the time. I dated a girl a few years ago who lived 2 blocks from Mistake by the Lake, her ex was an accountant for the tribe (wasn't a NA) and she told me stories about the drug use/violence by the younger tribesmen, and don't be caught in their neighborhoods right north of the YMCA on 140th at night.

[TimtheGuy]

Originally Posted by David A Stone

I believe it stated tribal members in the Mille Lacs band " only " receive $900 per month.


That is more than many poor whites in that area receive after paying into SS.


( and the tribal members don't have to be 62 to draw that monthly check )

$900/mo. to the business owners....waa waaa.....

[David A Stone]

The ads on the radio for the Mille Lacs casino always ends with......."the Ojibwa Band welcomes you "


Yet, when I am at the Mille Lacs casino I rarely see an Indian working there.


Evidently those monthly checks $$$$$$$$$ are enough they don't want a job.