Minnesota's first infected Coronasvirus person. (Woodstock: dangerous, safety, estimate)

[Cruz Azul Guy]

This thing will not be under control until widespread testing and a vaccine are both made available. I suspect that this won’t be happening for a looong time, meaning this lockdown and social distancing will become the new normal.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by wamer27

They had a U disease doctor on KFAN many weeks ago, he said most who get it won't even notice, slight cough, runny nose briefly and that's it. Have things changed? I love how the news only reports deaths, but never the 97% who survived it.

Moreover, the latest news is that doctors in NY are rethinking even putting many of dire cases on ventilators.


Ventilators for those who weren't aware, apparently have only a 20% survival rate for those unfortunate enough on one.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

This thing will not be under control until widespread testing and a vaccine are both made available. I suspect that this won’t be happening for a looong time, meaning this lockdown and social distancing will become the new normal.

Italy "locked down" more than most places and still many apparently healthy people who came out to donate blood were "carriers" of Covid-19.


Roughly 70%.


I guess we should shut it all down for...a couple years maybe?

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Kavalier

Italy "locked down" more than most places and still many apparently healthy people who came out to donate blood were "carriers" of Covid-19.


Roughly 70%.


I guess we should shut it all down for...a couple years maybe?

It’s a dire situation. All of this is slowing the spread and saving alot of lives though so you can’t just throw up your arms and say to hell with it and go back to life as normal knowing that it will cause millions to die.

[Kavalier]

It's a dire situation alright. One state (I believe Indiana) saw a suicide hotline there jump from 1000 to 25000 calls in one day.


Yes, it's dire. And health hazards are wider and deeper than just coronavirus.

[wamer27]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

It’s a dire situation. All of this is slowing the spread and saving alot of lives though so you can’t just throw up your arms and say to hell with it and go back to life as normal knowing that it will cause millions to die.

So the big picture perfect scenario is all that already have it (some die) and ones who recover can't spread it, it'll eventually go away with the self isolation. Have they figured the length when someone gets it and recovers of can they still spread it?

[Glenfield]

I saw Theo Keith of Fox9 post this earlier:

Yesterday, Health Commissioner Jan Malcolm said the best case for MN deaths w/ social distancing is 6,000; middle range is 20,000.

Today, Fauci predicts 60,000 deaths NATIONWIDE w/ social distancing.

We'll be asking state officials today about this.

This kind of discrepancy makes people question whether the decisions to close down businesses are really supported by good information. The Minnesota model has consistently shown a more dire situation than the more commonly used University of Washington model, and both assumed much lower compliance with social distancing than we are actually experiencing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ng-projections

[MidwestRedux]

The handling of this virus will go down as one of the most tragic mistakes in world history. Those who led the charge to shut down our lives and the economy will falsely claim to have saved millions of lives. In reality they will have destroyed hundreds of millions of lives.

If you look at the three countries that have tested the highest percentage of their population for the virus, you get a much clearer picture of the risks to those who become infected.

Iceland, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates have all tested between 5% and 10% of their population. By comparison, the US has tested 0.6% Iceland and the UAE have data on their websites:

https://www.mohap.gov.ae/en/MediaCen...ages/2363.aspx

https://www.covid.is/data

All three have death rates of about 0.4% of confirmed cases. All of the models being used to justify shutting down out lives assume a fatality rate that is 5-10 times higher.

This study suggest that only 1.6% of cases in the US have been confirmed:
COVID-19 - Georg-August-Universität Göttingen

If true, that means that about 27 million people in the US have or had the virus. Suddenly the number of deaths doesn't look too bad.

A brand new study from Germany showed that 15% of a town's residents showed the presence of antibodies, indicating they had the virus. This would give the town a case fatality rate of .37%.

Not only do our leaders have no plan to end this dystopian nightmare, but they are using flawed data to justify it.

[Tyryztoll]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

This thing will not be under control until widespread testing and a vaccine are both made available. I suspect that this won’t be happening for a looong time, meaning this lockdown and social distancing will become the new normal.

I see the drama schools are still open and operating. Hey, Faust - 6 feet apart from the devil there, Mister!

[knke0204]

Originally Posted by wamer27

They had a U disease doctor on KFAN many weeks ago, he said most who get it won't even notice, slight cough, runny nose briefly and that's it. Have things changed? I love how the news only reports deaths, but never the 97% who survived it.

500,000- 1,000,000 Minnesotans have already had it.

Myself included.