Press One For English (Miami, Hialeah: low income, neighborhoods, income)

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Originally Posted by cuba libre

This is not a rare or isolated anomoly. There are hundreds of thousands of people in Miami just like this guy.

At my old job in college, I worked for a company that sent boxes and mail to Cuba. Most of the people I dealt with could not speak ANY English. The refugee community as a whole has little interest in assimilation or English, as many are too bitter after waiting half their lives to get here to try and become Americans. It will be interesting to see how many of these Cuban nationals will be deported after the embargo for failing to obtain their U.S. citizenship.

How pitiful, failing to obtain citizenship after having decades to do so...

Well that's a tough crowd, I don't even have the patience to handle that crowd I don't think many had been here for too long or were too old to learn it.

About the Cuban embargo. Honestly I don't think the USA is very interested in lifting it. It's very strategic to have an enemy close(think spies and getting Russian info and all that stuff) Sorry No Cuba Libre anytime soon

Anyways I don't see the problem with having service in Spanish over the phone. Do I use it? of course not. but I can see older hispanics using it, and business will have it as long as it's profitable for them. Again my advice: press one before that Spanish lady continues talking.

[Trusses]

There's no need to lean English in Miami. I think they should, but from a hispanic's point of view, why should they? Everywhere they go they hear spanish and others are speakin in spanish. where in Miami do you HAVE TO know English?

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Originally Posted by Trusses

There's no need to lean English in Miami. I think they should, but from a hispanic's point of view, why should they? Everywhere they go they hear spanish and others are speakin in spanish. where in Miami do you HAVE TO know English?

Where? try workplace & college.
Why are you speaking for hispanics' point of view when you are not even one?
Those that are young enough to learn it and have a little common sense will learn it. Why? because they want opportunities. You need English to become a professional. College is in English and most companies carry their operations in English. Not all hispanics work at BKs or Walmart as service employees, or commit robberies and burglaries, or live on Government assistance.

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by lolita305

Those that are young enough to learn it and have a little common sense will learn it.

Key word: cartoons. It doesn't take common sense for a 5 year old Hispanic boy to learn English, it takes GI Joe.

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Originally Posted by cuba libre

Key word: cartoons. It doesn't take common sense for a 5 year old Hispanic boy to learn English, it takes GI Joe.

A 5 year old will learn it. Even most kids that get a chance to go to school before high school. I'm talking about people in their teens, 20's and 30's. Even some in their 40's are able to do so, but not all.

The common sense I was talking about is not related to their ability to learn Spanish but their choice to learn. You missed my point completely.

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by lolita305

A 5 year old will learn it. Even most kids that get a chance to go to school before high school. I'm talking about people in their teens, 20's and 30's. Even some in their 40's are able to do so, but not all.

The common sense I was talking about is not related to their ability to learn Spanish but their choice to learn. You missed my point completely.

With a 5 year old, choice is not a factor, it just happens.

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Originally Posted by Trusses

There's no need to lean English in Miami. I think they should, but from a hispanic's point of view, why should they? Everywhere they go they hear spanish and others are speakin in spanish. where in Miami do you HAVE TO know English?

Everywhere except for Hector's underground cafeteria in Hialeah. Miami is best described as "bilingual" with English being necessary for any kind of success, just like anywhere else in the US. Miami isn't it's own nation and for anyone to suggest that is just as unpatriotic as the Hispanics who put the flags of their home countries on their cars. Knowing Spanish helps more than most places, but knowing English is key.

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by compelled to reply

Everywhere except for Hector's underground cafeteria in Hialeah.

That's not true. When I went to the used car lot at Maroone on Le Jeune Rd., they could not find an English speaking car salesman, and me and my girlfriend had to settle with a guy who spoke broken English. That was about a year ago.

I could name off 1,000 experiences exactly like that one in Miami...

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Originally Posted by cuba libre

That's not true. When I went to the used car lot at Maroone on Le Jeune Rd., they could not find an English speaking car salesman, and me and my girlfriend had to settle with a guy who spoke broken English. That was about a year ago.

I could name off 1,000 experiences exactly like that one in Miami...

I think everyone made their point here and this thread is getting boring .. let's move on .

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Originally Posted by cuba libre

That's not true. When I went to the used car lot at Maroone on Le Jeune Rd., they could not find an English speaking car salesman, and I had to settle with a guy who spoke broken English.

I could name off 1,000 experiences exactly like that one in Miami...

Oh, and car dealers. I do agree with you on that one.