Governor Edwards pardons 40 murderers (Arabi, Clinton: crime rate, limousine, home)

[victimofGM]

https://www.fox8live.com/2023/12/22/...ast-louisiana/

Louisiana is a little less safe. Wish US Presidents and governors would be required to live with those convicted of violent crimes if they pardon them. If they feel these people are safe to release from prison then have them in your home during the normal parole period.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

https://www.fox8live.com/2023/12/22/...ast-louisiana/

Louisiana is a little less safe. Wish US Presidents and governors would be required to live with those convicted of violent crimes if they pardon them. If they feel these people are safe to release from prison then have them in your home during the normal parole period.

I would have to see more details on the people he pardoned to understand what his goal is. But it appears that most of them were very young when they committed their crimes, and are now senior citizens or close to being senior citizens. Senior citizens, even convicted murders generally don't pose a lot of risk to society.

Given the fact that Louisiana locks up more people than any other place in the entire world, and yet still has one of the highest violent crime rates in the country, I have to think the Governor is probably on the right track. Locking up people for life doesn't seem to be doing a lot of good for Louisiana.

Maybe it's time for Louisiana to look for other more effective solutions. Such as spending some of that prison money on education and creating jobs.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

https://www.fox8live.com/2023/12/22/...ast-louisiana/

Louisiana is a little less safe. Wish US Presidents and governors would be required to live with those convicted of violent crimes if they pardon them. If they feel these people are safe to release from prison then have them in your home during the normal parole period.

You do understand that there's nuance, as well as prisonsers are supposed to reenter society at some point. They are still humans with rights.

[87112]

I can't find the compassion for murders. I prefer the Singapore or Iran or Saudi Arabia methods. You took someone off the earth you will be gone too.

[TunedIn]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

I would have to see more details on the people he pardoned to understand what his goal is. But it appears that most of them were very young when they committed their crimes, and are now senior citizens or close to being senior citizens. Senior citizens, even convicted murders generally don't pose a lot of risk to society.

Given the fact that Louisiana locks up more people than any other place in the entire world, and yet still has one of the highest violent crime rates in the country, I have to think the Governor is probably on the right track. Locking up people for life doesn't seem to be doing a lot of good for Louisiana.

Maybe it's time for Louisiana to look for other more effective solutions. Such as spending some of that prison money on education and creating jobs.

This claptrap again. Louisiana's violent crime rate isn't because they incarcerate too many violent criminals. It's because too many violent criminals call Louisiana home. And why not check with the loved ones of the victims to see if feebleness and old age is a fitting criteria for parole.

[TunedIn]

Violent criminals, particularly murderers, aren't sentenced according to simply when, or even if, rehabilitation occurs. Or what scientists think. You're discounting the fact that we've societally agreed upon punitive measures of incarceration. And you're mistaken if you assume that the sentiments of the victims or their survivors have no bearing on a parole decision.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by TunedIn

Violent criminals, particularly murderers, aren't sentenced according to simply when, or even if, rehabilitation occurs. Or what scientists think. You're discounting the fact that we've societally agreed upon punitive measures of incarceration. And you're mistaken if you assume that the sentiments of the victims or their survivors have no bearing on a parole decision.

We've also socially agreed on pardons.

They shouldn't have any bearing, in my opinion. They don't know how to rehabilitate people, the original purpose of the prison system before it was corrupted with private prisons.

[Lizap]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

You do understand that there's nuance, as well as prisonsers are supposed to reenter society at some point. They are still humans with rights.

I didn’t realize prisoners had rights..

[D-Towner]

Originally Posted by Lizap

I didn’t realize prisoners had rights..

Do you support the torture of prisoners?

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

https://www.fox8live.com/2023/12/22/...ast-louisiana/

Louisiana is a little less safe. Wish US Presidents and governors would be required to live with those convicted of violent crimes if they pardon them. If they feel these people are safe to release from prison then have them in your home during the normal parole period.

It's just that time of year and there's little average persons can do about it.

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/lo...d-f5e3b7de7f8a

Governors all over USA often use last few months of each year to dole out pardons or clemencies.

As with POTUS the most controversial acts come from lame duck administrations that are on their way out the door. Having not to face voters again sort of relieves them of worries about any push back I suppose. Remember Clinton throwing out of limousine window a handful of signed pardons (including that of pal Marc Rich) as he left WH?

Absent amendments to USC or local state constitutions powers of POTUS and governors to pardon or grand clemency are near absolute. They are not subject to congressional or state legislature review nor can be undone otherwise.