Governor Edwards pardons 40 murderers (section 8, health insurance, violent crime)

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

I am glad to hear that senior citizens which were convicted of murder generally do not pose a risk to society. Maybe Oregon and Cali should look for other more effective solutions.

All states should look for more effective solutions. In order to solve a problem, you have to understand it. Keeping people in prison past the peak age of criminal activity, is a waste of tax money and counterproductive to lowing the crime rate. We have senior citizens in prison who are literally bedridden. Caring for those types of inmates is extremely expensive.

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Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

All states should look for more effective solutions. In order to solve a problem, you have to understand it. Keeping people in prison past the peak age of criminal activity, is a waste of tax money and counterproductive to lowing the crime rate. We have senior citizens in prison who are literally bedridden. Caring for those types of inmates is extremely expensive.

Keeping people in prison past the peak age of criminal activity....24.....is a waste of tax money?

[Lizap]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

All states should look for more effective solutions. In order to solve a problem, you have to understand it. Keeping people in prison past the peak age of criminal activity, is a waste of tax money and counterproductive to lowing the crime rate. We have senior citizens in prison who are literally bedridden. Caring for those types of inmates is extremely expensive.

Irrelevant. Evidently, some of these murdered innocent people and should spend the rest of their lives in prison. They’re fortunate they didn’t get the death penalty.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Lizap

Irrelevant. Evidently, some of these murdered innocent people and should spend the rest of their lives in prison. They’re fortunate they didn’t get the death penalty.

Yeah well then vote a big tax increase to pay for it. Not a small tax increase a really big one. But the vast majority of people who want to see more people locked up, don't want to pay for it. Yeah they will say they will, but when they get to the voting booth, they will vote no. That leaves it up to the Governor and other officials to figure out who to release to free up more prison space. That's the way it is and that's the way it will always be.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Yeah well then vote a big tax increase to pay for it. Not a small tax increase a really big one. But the vast majority of people who want to see more people locked up, don't want to pay for it. Yeah they will say they will, but when they get to the voting booth, they will vote no. That leaves it up to the Governor and other officials to figure out who to release to free up more prison space. That's the way it is and that's the way it will always be.

Those senior citizen inmates start getting sick too, and require expensive medical care. If they are in prison, the State has to pay. If they are not in prison, then Medicare pays for the over 65's. I can't find it now, but several years ago I saw an analysis of how much Texas could save in prison costs by releasing elderly inmates. It was tens of millions of dollars per year.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by WRM20

Those senior citizen inmates start getting sick too, and require expensive medical care. If they are in prison, the State has to pay. If they are not in prison, then Medicare pays for the over 65's. I can't find it now, but several years ago I saw an analysis of how much Texas could save in prison costs by releasing elderly inmates. It was tens of millions of dollars per year.

Exactly. It's really easy to say "Lock them up and throw away they key". But it's not really that simple. Every prisoner is your dependent. It's just like having kids. The more you have, the more it costs you. But people don't think about that.

[Lizap]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

Exactly. It's really easy to say "Lock them up and throw away they key". But it's not really that simple. Every prisoner is your dependent. It's just like having kids. The more you have, the more it costs you. But people don't think about that.

Not necessarily. There’s a lot of fat that can be cut in state-funded institutions, including prisons.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by Lizap

Not necessarily. There’s a lot of fat that can be cut in state-funded institutions, including prisons.

That's not true at all. People think there is a lot of fat, but never provide any proof of those claims. Prisons are generally underfunded and staffed with some of the lowest paid employees in a state(California is an exception). Medical care is less than adequate, and uses doctors that can't find jobs elsewhere. Louisiana and Texas prisons lack air conditioning, which leads to inmate and employee health issues.

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Originally Posted by WRM20

That's not true at all. People think there is a lot of fat, but never provide any proof of those claims. Prisons are generally underfunded and staffed with some of the lowest paid employees in a state(California is an exception). Medical care is less than adequate, and uses doctors that can't find jobs elsewhere. Louisiana and Texas prisons lack air conditioning, which leads to inmate and employee health issues.

Sounds like a place that a young man might want to avoid. And let's face it, by the time a judge puts him behind four walls, he's had time to consciously choose the path that put him there. My only sympathies are for the victims. Speaking of which, one of the kindly old gentleman being returned to the world of air conditioning, was convicted of robbing, stabbing and beating a man about the head, before shooting him to death and setting his house on fire. Any justice, he gets hit by a car on his first day out.

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Originally Posted by WRM20

That's not true at all. People think there is a lot of fat, but never provide any proof of those claims. Prisons are generally underfunded and staffed with some of the lowest paid employees in a state(California is an exception). Medical care is less than adequate, and uses doctors that can't find jobs elsewhere. Louisiana and Texas prisons lack air conditioning, which leads to inmate and employee health issues.

Another of these harmless silver hairs killed a hitchhiker........and raped his wife. Still another stabbed a woman to death.....39 times. And let's not overlook the gentle geriatric that had a gas station robbery attempt foiled......so what now? For this genius? Call a cab and shoot the driver to death. Almost hard to believe they were forced to endure an existence without air conditioning.