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Old 04-07-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Mastic
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I think teachers should be paid well. These are professionals with masters degrees (usually with additional credits) who are also mandated reporters. They are in charge of the lives of 100s of students a year. They should be well compensated. Should a gym teacher be paid the same as an Advanced Placement Social Studies teacher? Probably not.
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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I think teachers should be paid well. These are professionals with masters degrees (usually with additional credits) who are also mandated reporters. They are in charge of the lives of 100s of students a year. They should be well compensated. Should a gym teacher be paid the same as an Advanced Placement Social Studies teacher? Probably not.
clearly you're not aware of the groundbreaking advances our gym teachers have been making in kickball and jumping jacks. This is truly amazing stuff!
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I think teachers should be paid well. These are professionals with masters degrees (usually with additional credits) who are also mandated reporters. They are in charge of the lives of 100s of students a year. They should be well compensated. Should a gym teacher be paid the same as an Advanced Placement Social Studies teacher? Probably not.
Spare me the "professionals" nonsense.

No true white collar professional is in a TRADE UNION, for crying out loud. The only exception I have ever heard of is certain types of engineers, and even those are generally only in trade unions when they work in a trade union dominated company.

Professional means you are educated, sophisticated, and intelligent enough to be in charge of your own career.

People who need a trade union "nanny" to suck the taxpayers dry are not professionals in any sense of the word.

If teachers are such professionals, then they should give up the unions and manage their careers themselves like real professionals do.
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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Stop your elitist nonsense. A union is necessary because of the corruption and nepotism within school districts. I am in charge of my own career and use a union to protect my rights as a worker/teacher. If we gave up trade unions, our salaries, benefits, and pensions would go away. In addition, a union protects us against arbitrary firing due to an administrator needing his niece/nephew a job. Obviously, teachers are the intelligent ones who are doing very well for themselves.
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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Stop your elitist nonsense. A union is necessary because of the corruption and nepotism within school districts. I am in charge of my own career and use a union to protect my rights as a worker/teacher. If we gave up trade unions, our salaries, benefits, and pensions would go away. In addition, a union protects us against arbitrary firing due to an administrator needing his niece/nephew a job. Obviously, teachers are the intelligent ones who are doing very well for themselves.
school districts are free of nepotism and corruption? In what part of Fantasy Land do you teach?
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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I think most of them are in the union because you cannot work in school without being in the union. I think unions are useless and are past their time. They are no longer helpful to the workers (in a long term/overall picture).

Teachers being paid what they are....I think all that are above their heads -the District management and all their office crap being paid way beyond what it should be....


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Old 04-07-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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I'm glad Cuomo's getting tough with them. Maybe there is hope.
Umm...last I looked all Mr Sandra Lee does is talk. So far just idle talk.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Stop your elitist nonsense. A union is necessary because of the corruption and nepotism within school districts. I am in charge of my own career and use a union to protect my rights as a worker/teacher. If we gave up trade unions, our salaries, benefits, and pensions would go away. In addition, a union protects us against arbitrary firing due to an administrator needing his niece/nephew a job. Obviously, teachers are the intelligent ones who are doing very well for themselves.

Maybe there should be a taxpayer union, to protect us from the grubby teachers.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Stop your elitist nonsense. A union is necessary because of the corruption and nepotism within school districts. I am in charge of my own career and use a union to protect my rights as a worker/teacher. If we gave up trade unions, our salaries, benefits, and pensions would go away. In addition, a union protects us against arbitrary firing due to an administrator needing his niece/nephew a job. Obviously, teachers are the intelligent ones who are doing very well for themselves.
Teachers don't have to be in unions. Many states don't have teachers' unions. Teachers in private schools on LI are also not in unions. Unions are not a necessity. And it is laughable if you think that unions have cured the corruption and nepotism in school districts. The unions have added to it because it is just another layer of "connectedness" to get a job ... be connected to someone high up in the union. It is very odd how you express yourself ... usually talking about teachers in the third person and occasionally slipping and stating that you are one. Which is it already? Your unions have destroyed the property taxpayers of LI. You cannot deny that.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Maybe there should be a taxpayer union, to protect us from the grubby teachers.


I'd join! - and the union fees would be more taxes???
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