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I would leave Buffalo on the list as it seems very similiar economically and culturally to cities like Cleveland, Toledo, and Detroit. I would take Louisville off the list as it seems more similar to places like Nashville than it does to any other cities on the list of "midwestern" cities.
Louisville is like Nashville to you?? Wow, there's a big difference in those two cities to me. Nashville is very Southern, Louisville isn't.
Louisville is like Nashville to you?? Wow, there's a big difference in those two cities to me. Nashville is very Southern, Louisville isn't.
In a relative sense, it does seem alot more like Nashville than Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis and most other midwest cities. To me anyway, the terrain seems more similar to many of the southern cities, as does the predominate dialect. Obviously though, it does border on Indiana and is only 100 miles or so up to both Indy and Cincinnati.
Just because there is a city in one region that "feels like" a different region, doesn't mean that city should be referred to as part of that distant region.
If a city was right on the border, that would make a difference.
Heck, here in Minnesota we got Duluth-------seaport on Lake Superior, very steep , hilly streets that people say it resembles San Francisco.
( I doubt any Minnesotan would be that stupid or naieve to call Duluth part of the---"Far West)
Louisville is like Nashville to you?? Wow, there's a big difference in those two cities to me. Nashville is very Southern, Louisville isn't.
There's a difference but its not huge. Louisville and Nashville are both in the Upper South and share many similar qualities and even the predominant dialects in both cities are very similar.
Buffalo New York should be considered--"midwest" ?
I guess I got my laugh for today.
Are you familiar with Buffalo or are you one of these people that thinks all of New York state is skyscrapers and asphalt? Buffalo is 6 hours from NYC. It is significantly different in just about every way.
All the cities along the Great Lakes share a common feeling. Very industrial, brutal winters. Generally crappy economies. Similar immigrants who flooded the cities in the industrial era.
I thought the general consensus with Louisville was that it is both southern and midwestern. We've had about 8 threads on this.
Are you familiar with Buffalo or are you one of these people that thinks all of New York state is skyscrapers and asphalt? Buffalo is 6 hours from NYC. It is significantly different in just about every way.
All the cities along the Great Lakes share a common feeling. Very industrial, brutal winters. Generally crappy economies. Similar immigrants who flooded the cities in the industrial era.
I thought the general consensus with Louisville was that it is both southern and midwestern. We've had about 8 threads on this.
As a recently retired dairy farmer, I am well aware that upstate NY is a major dairy area. So is Minnesota and Idaho, but I wouldn't lump them into the same geographic area/ geographic term based on that fact.
I think some people are getting their terms mixed up. It doesn't help that "midwestern" can be a difficult term to define. Here is a map, via Wikipedia, from the U.S. Census Bureau, depicting the official states of the midwest:
The people who imagine that various rural regions can be called Midwestern based on their culture or "feel", are quite simply mistaken. The Midwest isn't about being rural - it includes Chicago, Indianapolis, St. Louis and Minneapolis, as well as many other large cities.
And everyone can take note of the fact that Louisville isn't on that map. Neither ... is ... the state of New York.
I think some people are getting their terms mixed up. It doesn't help that "midwestern" can be a difficult term to define. Here is a map, via Wikipedia, from the U.S. Census Bureau, depicting the official states of the midwest:
The people who imagine that various rural regions can be called Midwestern based on their culture or "feel", are quite simply mistaken. The Midwest isn't about being rural - it includes Chicago, Indianapolis, St. Louis and Minneapolis, as well as many other large cities.
And everyone can take note of the fact that Louisville isn't on that map. Neither ... is ... the state of New York.
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