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Old 12-27-2010, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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Information is from the Milliken institute

Illinois Top 5 Metros
1. St. Louis, MO-IL MSA
2. Peoria, IL MSA
3. Davenport-Moline-Rock Island, IL-IA MSA
4. Chicago -Naperville-Joliet, IL MD
5. Lake County-Kenosha County, IL-WI MD

Illinois Top 5 Small Metros
1. Bloominngton-Normal, IL MSA
2- Champaign-Urbana, IL MSA
3- KanKakee-Bradley, IL MSA
4- Springfield, IL MSA
5- Decatur, iL MSA

2010 Best-Performing Cities - 200 Largest Metros

I think the single line item that surprises me the most is an Arkansas -MO (No Missouri towns listed) MSA is the top best performer in Missouri. I am very familiar with the area. The only reason I can fathom this is that Wal-Mart, Tyson Foods and JB Hunt Headquarters are within 20 miles of each other in this MSA. McDonald County, MO adds little flavor to this MSA

The other line item that is surprising is in the Iowa best performers. Number 3 in Illinois is ranked #5 in Iowa. These are a few of the reasons I don't like mixing multiple state data for statistical purposes.

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Old 12-27-2010, 09:52 AM
 
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The other line item that is surprising is in the Iowa best performers. Number 3 in Illinois is ranked #5 in Iowa.
Why should that be surprising?
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Old 12-27-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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I did not expect it to change.

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Why should that be surprising?
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Old 12-27-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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2009 - Peoria #33; Chicago #148
2008 - Peoria #43; Chicago #160
2007 - Peoria #68; Chicago #152

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Probably the most surprising there is that


Kankakee County is ranked #59 out of 179 small markets, not great, but also not as dismal as some make it out to be.

Though I have to question any study that places Chicago lower than Peoria, normally taken with a grain of salt at that point.
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Chicago should be ranked seperately from suburban Cook, Lake, DuPage and Will counties to get an accurate gauge. Chicago may be shedding jobs, but I feel that the suburbs are gaining.
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:29 PM
 
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Chicago should be ranked seperately from suburban Cook, Lake, DuPage and Will counties to get an accurate gauge. Chicago may be shedding jobs, but I feel that the suburbs are gaining.
Then all of the cities named should be separated from their suburbs and satellites to get a more accurate gauge.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:23 AM
 
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And this is exactly why I say the mMSA and/or MSA that includes more than one state plus areas that are not necessarily related should not be included. But the Feds say that IF you shop, work or go to school in one state and live in the other it should all be lumped into one big ball which skews the reality of living in mid-America. .

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Then all of the cities named should be separated from their suburbs and satellites to get a more accurate gauge.
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:41 AM
 
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Also, why is Lake County separate from Chicago, but Naperville/ Joliet not? Just that is enough to confuse the heck out of me already. Also, what goes into the index they use to quantify metropolitan performance?
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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First of all, growth is only one criteria. Secondly Chicago is 20x LARGER than Peoria, it should have a greater growth. Third, empty stats don't mean much. Where are the numbers that back your facts and what is the source? By the by, this doesn't change how Miliken compiles data but it might be another reason to not like the USBL statisitics. . .


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Isn't the best indicator of "best performing" cities simply population growth? People go where the jobs are.

Population growth since 2000 of the 2 metro areas.

Peoria- 2.4%
Chicago- 5.2%
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Old 12-28-2010, 06:23 PM
 
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Isn't the best indicator of "best performing" cities simply population growth? People go where the jobs are.

Population growth since 2000 of the 2 metro areas.

Peoria- 2.4%
Chicago- 5.2%
Or where the freebies are.
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