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Old 02-17-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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They don't. But they work and shop in Fairview Heights, Belleville, O'Fallon, etc. I don't get the point.
All I was saying is that the healthiest urban part of Illinois for job growth is the metro east part of the St Louis MSA. And the healthiest urban part of Missouri for job growth is the metro west part of the St Louis MSA. Which means that the St Louis MSA is doing pretty good by comparison to the rest of the urban areas in both states. I will continue my celebration now.
How is St. Louis proper doing? Is the growth coming at the expense of people moving out from St. Louis, or is the entire MSA growing? Is downtown St. Louis still growing?
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: St. Louis City
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I believe in general there is some growth in the MSA (closer and closer to 3mm people). There is aslo general urban spraw that continues to occur - west in St. Charles and Lincoln counties, but also east in Madison County. The Missouri counties within the MSA are not losing residents in total. Downtown is doing very well, and loft and apartment opportunities continue to grow. Many city neighborhoods are also doing very well. I am anxious to see results of the 2010 census! Darn Illinois - they already have their results
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I am actually surprised how big the St. Louis MSA is ... it extends all the way NE through Macoupin county, IL...just south of Sangamon county in which Springfield, IL is located. The StL MSA is pretty big!
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:10 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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A lot of people commute from long distances to St Louis city and county. I personally know several people who travel at least 60 miles each way, every day. Because of those commuting patterns, outlying counties (such as Macoupin) are included in the St Louis MSA.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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The MSA is the US Department of Labor's guide to the 10-year population shift based on census . It highlights urban areas where people live, work, and shop.

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Old 02-18-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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I believe in general there is some growth in the MSA (closer and closer to 3mm people). There is aslo general urban spraw that continues to occur - west in St. Charles and Lincoln counties, but also east in Madison County. The Missouri counties within the MSA are not losing residents in total. Downtown is doing very well, and loft and apartment opportunities continue to grow. Many city neighborhoods are also doing very well. I am anxious to see results of the 2010 census! Darn Illinois - they already have their results
Glad to hear. I like the area and although St.Louis proper has issues as many larger cities do, they seem to be fighting to improve. I travel to Madison & St. Clair counties for work a few times a year and stay in Madison Co. due to the wonderful bike trail network they have. I can bike to the trail from my hotel and go for several hours.
I like Chicago, but I also like the other "large" Midwestern cities (St. Louis, Twin Cities, Milwaukee, Des Moines, Indy) because they are a more manageable scale yet have the vibrancy of a large urban/suburban area.
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