[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by FL_Expert

Speaking of which, good luck on your move Kyle. I can see the appeal of the Midwest, it’s not a bad value.

Thank you, appreciate it!

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by movedintime

Baldwin County, Al - seems to check a lot of box's.

Small town country feeling next to a city with major airport by the ocean .

Touristy town south of I10, modern development north of I10.

Weather, jobs for the young, easy for retired.

Plenty of homes under 300k Plenty in the higher prices too. Nice clean area !

recently been discovered, now growing

I like Fair Hope and Gulf Shores a lot...good call.

[movedintime]

Fairhope is nice as the whole area including Daphne.

Spanish Fort and Malbis very good with easy access to Mobile

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

I would so move back to Grand Rapids if you actually saw the sun more than 15 minutes at a time between November and April. Still a reasonable cost of living and good quality of life, but I just can’t handle the gloom.

Lots of other places in the Midwest that have that kind of happy balance like Des Moines, Omaha, Columbus, Madison, etc. Omaha would actually be a pretty good place to start a career- lots of white collar jobs for a metro area that size and you can buy a nice family home with the salaries they offer.

Still too cold! What about Missouri? St. Louis quite a bit warmer than those cities. Stl more the lower midwest, bordering on upper south though. MO is the warmest midwest state, but about half of Missouri aligns with the South anyway. Climate and culturally. I'd still call it a border south today. Southern parts of MO warm, same as northern TN. Springfield MO usually thrown in with the upper parts of the sunbelt now. That area is seeing a lot of growth including Branson.

Stl and Louisville same type of weather.

I also find the culture bland in those more northern cities. MO is a lot more diverse culturally. Stl Lower midwest, even bit of east coast feel. South of there the Ozarks is upper south influence, and Southeast MO is MS Delta culture.

[sinatras]

I just spent a week in Texas and many people I met there are planning to move to Minnesota and Ohio to escape the extreme heat in the South. Florida is no longer top of mind for Texans it seems. They are very scared of the weather after this historically hot summer in Texas and across the South. It's STILL in the triple digits in Texas this week. 107 today in many places. That's normal for Arizona and Nevada but not central Texas. It was very very hot; although it's a much drier heat than Florida and you don't sweat as much as Florida (which I liked) it was way too hot and dry. Looks Mad Max apocalyptically dry out there right now. Exceptional drought conditions and rolling blackouts.

[Corrie22]

it's always ”many”....never ”some”.....LOL

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

it's always ”many”....never ”some”.....LOL

Keep a eye on that cane.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by LKJ1988

Keep a eye on that cane.

We need Lee to come here and get us out of this drought.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

Still too cold! What about Missouri?

No more red states. No states that seem likely to be trending red. And no red areas within blue states. I’m not trading Matt Gaetz as my so-called congresscritter for Lauren Bobert.

Originally Posted by sinatras

I just spent a week in Texas and many people I met there are planning to move to Minnesota and Ohio to escape the extreme heat in the South. Florida is no longer top of mind for Texans it seems. They are very scared of the weather after this historically hot summer in Texas and across the South. It's STILL in the triple digits in Texas this week. 107 today in many places. That's normal for Arizona and Nevada but not central Texas. It was very very hot; although it's a much drier heat than Florida and you don't sweat as much as Florida (which I liked) it was way too hot and dry. Looks Mad Max apocalyptically dry out there right now. Exceptional drought conditions and rolling blackouts.

The irony is that, according to my Minnesota friends, they’ve been getting hot and high dew point weather the past week or two that sounds like typical Florida or Texas summer. Minnesota and the Dakotas have a classic continental climate and can get very high summer temperatures unless you’re close enough to Lake Superior to get some of the cooling effects of the Great Lakes.

Though, unlike Texas, both Minnesota and Ohio seem to have a very stable and reliable electrical grid.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by sinatras

We need Lee to come here and get us out of this drought.

There is no chance of anything helping us this year. Once that cane goes east of us it will end the rainy season that we never had anyways.