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Old 08-02-2023, 11:30 AM
 
Location: South Tampa, Maui, Paris
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went right over your head, didn't it

relying on authority to establish truth....doesn't work on the internet.....(argument from authority)


Yeah, that explains everything. And yet nothing about whether rising ocean temps are killing corals and other marine life.
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Old 08-02-2023, 12:05 PM
 
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Yeah, that explains everything. And yet nothing about whether rising ocean temps are killing corals and other marine life.
common sense would tell you they are not moving dead corals back inside to save them...

....and of course....lack of common sense would not

our corals bleach almost every year....we are a marginal reef....bleaching does not kill them...if it did, we would have no corals at all

"Some Florida Keys coral reefs are losing their color weeks earlier than normal this summer'"

"When temperatures get too high, the coral expels the algae, making the reefs appear white or bleached. That doesn’t mean they are dead,"

"Andrew Bruckner, research coordinator at the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary, said some coral reefs began showing the first signs of bleaching two weeks ago. Then in the last few days, some reefs lost all their color. That had never been recorded before Aug. 1. The peak for bleaching typically happens in late August or September."

“We are at least a month ahead of time, if not two months,” Bruckner said. “We’re not yet at the point where we are seeing any mortality ... from bleaching. It is still a minor number that are completely white, certain species, but it is much sooner than we expected.”

https://apnews.com/article/coral-ble...673927de6aae84
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Old 08-02-2023, 12:42 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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I fail to see how Manatee Bay is not part of the ocean. Its not a lake. Its not enclosed by land. You think the ocean starts 15 miles off the shore or something? The ocean begins at the shoreline, and that's where Manatee Bay is.
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Old 08-02-2023, 01:06 PM
 
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I fail to see how Manatee Bay is not part of the ocean. Its not a lake. Its not enclosed by land. You think the ocean starts 15 miles off the shore or something? The ocean begins at the shoreline, and that's where Manatee Bay is.
try again....Manatee Bay is almost completely enclosed by land.....it's inside Barnes Sound

the closest opening to the ocean is over 15 miles to the north....and over 20 miles to the south

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ba...3tm3?entry=ttu

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Old 08-02-2023, 03:45 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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try again....Manatee Bay is almost completely enclosed by land.....it's inside Barnes Sound

the closest opening to the ocean is over 15 miles to the north....and over 20 miles to the south

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ba...3tm3?entry=ttu

Yea, I was looking on Google Maps to analyse the geography of it... Its still part of the sea.

Barnes Sound is part of the Atlantic Ocean.

You need to brush up on oceanography
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Old 08-02-2023, 04:00 PM
 
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so is all of Florida Bay and all of Biscayne Bay.....but not even a moron would take a temperature reading in the Bay and think it's anywhere representative of the ocean

it's the bay.....it is not the ocean

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...at the same time....ocean surface temperature in Key Largo was less than 90
"Florida Bay is an estuary covering approximately 1,100 square miles (2,850 square km) between the southern tip of Florida and the Florida Keys,from Barnes Sound to cape Sable. It is located on a shallow shelf lagoon where freshwater from the Everglades mixes with the saltwater from the Gulf of Mexico."
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Old 08-02-2023, 08:08 PM
 
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Yea, I was looking on Google Maps to analyse the geography of it... Its still part of the sea.

Barnes Sound is part of the Atlantic Ocean.

You need to brush up on oceanography
Here's a primer on estuaries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuary
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Old 08-03-2023, 07:59 AM
 
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Why is it that people go to extremes? Don't you think both sides of this argument are suspect? While the activists claim doom, the naysayers ignore obvious problems. It's abundantly clear that we're doing damage to our planet. The question is how much can we feasibly do and if it will make a difference. Just look at the world population. It was 2.6 billion when I arrived.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
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Old 08-03-2023, 08:10 AM
 
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because one side is flat out lying about it......it wasn't the ocean temperature that they claimed....the ocean temperature off Key Largo was normal...slightly below 90F


101°F in the Ocean Off Florida: Was It a World Record? > https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/26/c...s%20sea%20life.

Water temperatures off Florida may have broken world record > https://www.tampabay.com/news/enviro...a-manatee-bay/

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Old 08-03-2023, 08:40 AM
 
Location: South Tampa, Maui, Paris
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Why is it that people go to extremes? Don't you think both sides of this argument are suspect? While the activists claim doom, the naysayers ignore obvious problems. It's abundantly clear that we're doing damage to our planet. The question is how much can we feasibly do and if it will make a difference. Just look at the world population. It was 2.6 billion when I arrived.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/


Both sides are intransigent. There's no solution to this.

So let's just hope that the naysayers are right, and that climate change (and warming waters and dying corals and entire countries running out of water and extreme weather events) are a figment of the alarmist imagination.
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