[gatorlyn]

Originally Posted by JBtwinz

I am a boomer and like many of the other Boomers retiring now they are looking for an income tax free state in which to relocate.

15 years ago Vegas, Nashville, Knoxville and Florida to name a few areas were relatively quiet. I have been in our little coastal town for over 34 years. It was once a quiet middle class town. Fast forward and we have become a very affluent retirement community.

I feel bad for Baldwin County, Alabama as in the last week there has been dozens of articles on Florida.
being unaffordable and Alabama being the new place to retire.

Until the majority of Boomers retire I don’t see Florida getting anymore affordable.

We Boomers are like locusts and as we retire we are fueling the rapid prices of homes in these hot retirement areas.

My question is when we Boomers start fading away will the generation behind us be able to afford our homes?

That is a very valid concern. With FL becoming unaffordable for the lower to middle class, who will be digging the graves?

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane

Converting an office building to housing is a very costly endeavor. Additional potable water and sewer lines would need to be added to the structure along with an increase of the local infrastructure. I doubt the municipalities have the money needed to gut buildings for refit and tear up roads to lay additional pipes and pump stations together with increasing the fresh water supply and waste water treatment capacity.

Beat me to it n ^^^^^.

This has been pointed out in one of the threads in the San Francisco/Oakland forum (re SF, not Florida).

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by James Bond 007

You are worried about nothing. Most of the people moving to Florida are republicans.

How Florida became a conservative bastion

This is true. I know people who have relocated to my neighborhood in south FL from California, New York, Massachusetts and Denver. All fall somewhere between independent and Republican, and were disgusted with what they experienced in their states in 2020.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane

Converting an office building to housing is a very costly endeavor. Additional potable water and sewer lines would need to be added to the structure along with an increase of the local infrastructure. I doubt the municipalities have the money needed to gut buildings for refit and tear up roads to lay additional pipes and pump stations together with increasing the fresh water supply and waste water treatment capacity.

Migrants are being housed in high school gymnasiums, & homeless people are omnipresent in NYC. The gov't needs to put them somewhere. Office space will wind up as low income or no income housing projects, after the gov't helps pay to convert them.

The buildings won't be torn down, or used as office space anymore. They won't be converted to condo's because NYC is losing workers, not adding them...plus work from home is killing all America's cities....no need to be there anymore. Brick 'n mortor retail is dying too.

After all these New Yorkers leave for Florida & elsewhere, what do you think will happen to all the empty office space in NYC? I heard the office occupancy rate there is down to just 50%.

Those "EXCELSIOR" NY car tags are wishful thinking..."ever upwards"...not.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by RMESMH

Yes, there is. The Gulf water feels warmer.

(I've live 2 blocks from the ocean in Southern California, and have 'dipped my toe in the water' everywhere from WA, to ME, to FL, to Corpus Christi, TX, to CA)

Who wants to dip their toes in WARM water? Who wants to swim in water that is so hot that it feels like you are swimming in urine?

Just the thought makes me wanna gag. Cold water is much more refreshing and healthy! Jump-starts the immune system!

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by Suesbal

It’s too late to be complaining about New Yorkers in Florida, isn’t it? Didn’t they put Miami Beach on the map?

South Florida has been referred to as the 6th Borough of NY.....

[vaughanwilliams]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

It used to be that Tallahassee was far away from the rest of the state, wherever you may be and state government largely let local government set a lot of their own rules because Florida is a large state oth in terms of population and physical size and it was felt like local government knew best what local wants and needs were.

The past four years have constantly seen more and more home rule stripped away from local government in favor of constant dictates from Tallahassee that run roughshod over those local wants and needs.

So you're ok with local governments superseding state law? Does that include draconian gun laws? How about federal laws a community disagrees with? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'd just like some clarification.

[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Who wants to dip their toes in WARM water? Who wants to swim in water that is so hot that it feels like you are swimming in urine?

Just the thought makes me wanna gag. Cold water is much more refreshing and healthy! Jump-starts the immune system!

That's a matter of personal preference. Personally, I like it. Feels cozy. Can't speak to the experience of swimming in urine, never tried it.

Maybe liking warm water comes from my many years of living in FL.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by vaughanwilliams

So you're ok with local governments superseding state law? Does that include draconian gun laws? How about federal laws a community disagrees with? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'd just like some clarification.

It’s not about local governments ‘superseding state law’. It’s that state government never used to feel the need to supersede local laws in pretty much every way shape or form until about five years back.

Used to be Tallahassee realized that Miami and Perry often had very different needs and very different values and respected that. Now they’re trying to turn the whole state into Perry.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane

Converting an office building to housing is a very costly endeavor. Additional potable water and sewer lines would need to be added to the structure along with an increase of the local infrastructure. I doubt the municipalities have the money needed to gut buildings for refit and tear up roads to lay additional pipes and pump stations together with increasing the fresh water supply and waste water treatment capacity.

Maybe it’s time for municipalities and/or States to issue their own currencies.

Fraught with difficulties, I know, but a worthwhile starting point for some brainstorming.