[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by gypsychic

Hi Travelassie, I appreciate all your well wishes, but someone revived an old thread. I broke my kneecap in 2022. It was a terrible accident at the time. I have recovered from a lot of my issues, although will never be like I was, plus I am diabetic now and survived blood clots, pulmonary embolism, ketoacidosis and a serious lung infection during the fall. Anyway, the grocery delivery helped a lot, I looked into meal deliveries at the time, but to me wasn't worth it. Just bought simple things that could be heated in the oven and got takeout. My sweet husband really showed what he is made of during this difficult time, I could have never survived without him and I mean that literally. I was near death when I went into the hospital, and there were times I felt like I wanted to let go, but with his prayers and prayers of my friends I somehow pulled through. I know I surprised everyone in the hospital with my recovery. Anyway I am back to shopping in person now (usually with hubby) but thank goodness delivery is available when you need it!

Oops, my bad. But happy that you're looking in the rear view mirror at the fall and all its associated miseries instead of going through everything currently. I'd have to agree with you about 2022 being a baaaaad year, and I'm happy the events of that year that affected me are in my rear view mirror too.

So stay well, and take care of yourselves, both you and your sweet husband! And Happy Easter.

[sinatras]

Unfortunately grocery delivery is not something that retailers can offer so that the minuscule few who have illness or injury can benefit from. Online grocery (including delivery/pickup) costs retailers GOBS of money to operate, and if lots of people don't use it.

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Unfortunately grocery delivery is not something that retailers can offer so that the minuscule few who have illness or injury can benefit from. Online grocery (including delivery/pickup) costs retailers GOBS of money to operate, and if lots of people don't use it.

Well, lots of people DO use it, so I don't think they have any worries. My neighbors get deliveries every day!

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Unfortunately grocery delivery is not something that retailers can offer so that the minuscule few who have illness or injury can benefit from. Online grocery (including delivery/pickup) costs retailers GOBS of money to operate, and if lots of people don't use it.

Grocery delivery is increasingly used and hardly miniscule. Approximately 30% of Americans now purchase groceries online a few times per month according to recent data.

https://www.onerail.com/grocery-logi...nd%20as%20well.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

Grocery delivery is increasingly used and hardly miniscule. Approximately 30% of Americans now purchase groceries online a few times per month according to recent data.

https://www.onerail.com/grocery-logi...nd%20as%20well.

Online grocery sales are dropping. Makes sense. Nobody wants to pay inflated grocery prices plus delivery fees and tips and service charges and other fees on top of that (again, unless you are injured or sick and can't get to the store).

https://chainstoreage.com/online-gro...-drop-february

Kroger is closing some delivery warehouses. So is Amazon.

https://progressivegrocer.com/kroger...ent-facilities

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

Grocery delivery is increasingly used and hardly miniscule. Approximately 30% of Americans now purchase groceries online a few times per month according to recent data.

https://www.onerail.com/grocery-logi...nd%20as%20well.

You seriously posted a 2022 article with 2022 stats that mean nothing now?

That was pandemic demand.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by sinatras

You seriously posted a 2022 article with 2022 stats that mean nothing now?

That was pandemic demand.

"Digital grocery sales are becoming an increasingly larger part of total grocery sales, making up 13.7% of the $1.601 trillion in total US grocery sales in 2024, according to EMARKETER’s November 2023 forecast. By 2025, digital grocery will be a $253.89 billion market in the US."

https://www.emarketer.com/insights/d...cery-industry/

E-Commerce includes the growing "click and collect" element utilized by Target and Walmart especially where you order online and pickup later. The home delivery element is more regionalized and has taken hold more permanently in high density cities outside of FL like NYC, DC, Philly and Chicago or traffic congested nightmares like Atlanta, LA and Houston. Senior citizens are increasingly a big portion of the home delivery demographic as well.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

"Digital grocery sales are becoming an increasingly larger part of total grocery sales, making up 13.7% of the $1.601 trillion in total US grocery sales in 2024, according to EMARKETER’s November 2023 forecast. By 2025, digital grocery will be a $253.89 billion market in the US."

https://www.emarketer.com/insights/d...cery-industry/

E-Commerce includes the growing "click and collect" element utilized by Target and Walmart especially where you order online and pickup later. The home delivery element is more regionalized and has taken hold more permanently in high density cities outside of FL like NYC, DC, Philly and Chicago or traffic congested nightmares like Atlanta, LA and Houston. Senior citizens are increasingly a big portion of the home delivery demographic as well.

Those are estimates, not actual sales data. I could spend all day making up estimates about e-commerce sales. Please see the month by month e-commerce data compiled by Brick Meets Click/Mercatus I posted earlier.

Your statement that "grocery delivery is increasingly used" is factually wrong. And in fact, if you want to look at yearly data, fewer people used grocery delivery in 2023 than in 2022. "Total U.S. e-commerce grocery sales down 2% in 2023 from the prior year. Order frequency and total ticket values also fell from the prior year, according to annual results from Brick Meets Click/Mercatus survey data."

https://talkbusiness.net/2024/02/the...%20per%20month.

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Those are estimates, not actual sales data. I could spend all day making up estimates about e-commerce sales. Please see the month by month e-commerce data compiled by Brick Meets Click/Mercatus I posted earlier.

Your statement that "grocery delivery is increasingly used" is factually wrong. And in fact, if you want to look at yearly data, fewer people used grocery delivery in 2023 than in 2022. "Total U.S. e-commerce grocery sales down 2% in 2023 from the prior year. Order frequency and total ticket values also fell from the prior year, according to annual results from Brick Meets Click/Mercatus survey data."

https://talkbusiness.net/2024/02/the...%20per%20month.

Well, so what? Whether it is increasing or decreasing business models change all the time. I imagine if Instacart were to fold, let's say, but Publix (or any other store using a third party delivery) still had a demand for delivery they may adapt and hire their own delivery people. I think those expensive third party services are the ones who will fold, and stores will just pick up the slack if demand is there.

I don't buy groceries for delivery anymore, but I purchase many other products from WalMart and get delivery directly from them, free, too. Lots of other type stores offer free delivery on many items (we buy a lot from Lowe's, too).

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by gypsychic

Well, so what? Whether it is increasing or decreasing business models change all the time. I imagine if Instacart were to fold, let's say, but Publix (or any other store using a third party delivery) still had a demand for delivery they may adapt and hire their own delivery people. I think those expensive third party services are the ones who will fold, and stores will just pick up the slack if demand is there.

I don't buy groceries for delivery anymore, but I purchase many other products from WalMart and get delivery directly from them, free, too. Lots of other type stores offer free delivery on many items (we buy a lot from Lowe's, too).

Publix is a sizable investor in Instacart, so no, Publix won't hire their own delivery people.

Instacart itself is an interesting business model; they are creating alternative revenue streams to generate revenue b/c delivering groceries is certainly not generating enough revenue.