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You do know our social safety system is not given away nor lasts forever. You have to qualify for it and many times it does a poor job of helping people. There are people on a wait list for government housing for example. While no one is dying on the street there are plenty more living on the streets. Not to mention people who have a place to live but are barely getting by. I have both volunteered and gave money to help the poor what have you done? You want to pretend being poor is ok that way you do not have to do anything to help.
It is given away and some aspects of it can go on forever.
In any event, notwithstanding your protestations to the contrary, the social safety net IS robust, and people aren’t dying in the streets due to starvation.
There are people on a wait list for government housing for example. .
Most of those people already have a roof over their head and hence do not need government housing. Instead, they can get a job, earn money, & pay for their own.
It is given away and some aspects of it can go on forever.
In any event, notwithstanding your protestations to the contrary, the social safety net IS robust, and people aren’t dying in the streets due to starvation.
Most years the only country that spends more in total vs. GDP on social welfare than the US is France. That comes from The OECD not me.
Given that it only affects about 6% of all workers, it won't affect it much at all. Especially given that the average increase is less than $0.80 per hour. Besides, you don't think that workers wages, even the lowest paid, should also keep pace with inflation?
No, because a minimum wage job is not meant to be a living wage. It is meant to not totally rip off workers and give them nothing. It is designed for high school kids or people without any skills. Thoat category of people deserve minimal o wages. If one wants to make more money, they need to make themselves market able by getting educated or experienced doing something. Some kid pushing shopping cats in the parking lot should be getting $5/ hour and not $15/ hr. That will give them the incentive Tim better themselves.
Thanks to this idiotic trend, a $1 hamburger at McDonalds two years ago is now $2.75. They have to raise the prices to pay the people with no skills. Great huh?
Most of those people already have a roof over their head and hence do not need government housing. Instead, they can get a job, earn money, & pay for their own.
How do you know they don’t have a job seems like an assumption on your part. Maybe they work and can’t afford their current housing. Show some evidence this is true or it is just a baseless assumption.
No, because a minimum wage job is not meant to be a living wage. It is meant to not totally rip off workers and give them nothing. It is designed for high school kids or people without any skills. Thoat category of people deserve minimal o wages.
The problem with that line of thinking is the opposition might reply, "OK, let's have one minimum wage for high school kids and learners, and a second minimum wage for high school graduates, and the third minimum wage for college students, and a fourth for college graduates, where each step along the way is much higher than the last."
That's not the direction we want to go.
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Thanks to this idiotic trend, a $1 hamburger at McDonalds two years ago is now $2.75. They have to raise the prices to pay the people with no skills. Great huh?
The drivers of the price increase are not merely labor but also a dramatic increase in the price of the raw ingredients in fast food and overhead items of insurance and paying for expensive green energy from utilities -- all of which can be traced to the Federal Government's $5 Billion Helicopter Drop enabled by the Federal Reserve.
You're right. Perhaps I should have said "get a job or get a 2nd or 3rd job, earn more money by adding more value to society through work, etc."
If they can't afford their current housing, they would be homeless. Most are not.
Or, maybe they do indeed afford their current housing but are lazy and want to be on the public dole so they can work even less.
Why should people have to kill themselves working two to three jobs just to survive? Do you think this is good for people to always be exhausted and not have time for family or friends? Why don’t you just come out and say you think they should be slaves because that is pretty much what you are saying. It is cruel and unethical to expect people to reach a certain standard of job just to survive.
Why should people have to kill themselves working two to three jobs just to survive? Do you think this is good for people to always be exhausted and not have time for family or friends? Why don’t you just come out and say you think they should be slaves because that is pretty much what you are saying. It is cruel and unethical to expect people to reach a certain standard of job just to survive.
you are absolutely right but large employers think it's great, and strive to get rid of minimum wage and unions - if they can get workers who have no choice but to work long hours with wages that just barely lets them pay their rent and buy food they are happy, and they are always very careful to cut off hours before those employees are eligible for health benefits or a 401k . Project 2025 very craftially offers 'ways' to right the ship and make sure employers aren't harmed by having to pay the peons too much. https://www.project2025.org/policy/
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