(Cincinnati Development Thread) (Monroe, Union: outlet mall, suburbs, architecture)

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by aquila

Any and all of them that are in the works. But that wasn't my point. When I read things like...
...I detect an underlying attitude that there is something inferior about the architecture, or projects, proposed for construction (or already built) in the suburbs compared to what happens in the urban core. Perhaps I'm being oversensitive and missing something...?

Aquila, you have to admit though to a certain degree, that less thought and cost goes into suburban development.


... but regardless, I'm looking forward to your postings!

[jlrosen]

^agreed

[aquila]

Oh, I'll be the first to admit those 4-story red brick boxes plastered all over the western side of the Union Centre interchange make me want to puke each time I see them. But how much thought went into incorporating the same "older Cincinnati style of architecture" in the original Banks designs? Doesn't Cincinnati have enough of that look throughout downtown and OTR already?

[hillside]

Originally Posted by aquila

Oh, I'll be the first to admit those 4-story red brick boxes plastered all over the western side of the Union Centre interchange make me want to puke each time I see them. But how much thought went into incorporating the same "older Cincinnati style of architecture" in the original Banks designs? Doesn't Cincinnati have enough of that look throughout downtown and OTR already?

you can go to denver, columbus, atlanta, etc and find the general design of the banks' architecture. for the welcome mat of cincinnati, it shouldn't be wasted horribly on something so ordinary.

rebuild the bottoms! (sans the crime and disease, lol)

[wrightflyer]

I know this isn't really between Cincinnati and Dayton (east of Dayton), and it's in a suburb so I don't know how it will be received, but I was wondering if anyone out there knows what is going into the former Rhoades Furniture store on N.Fairfield in Beavercreek? They completely tore off the front facade which was falling apart and replaced it with a new one. I've heard everything from an LA Fitness to a Dave and Busters might be going in there. Either way, it's nice that someone might finally be doing some redevelopment here instead of building yet another big box giant.

[Humlermw]

I'm not anti-suburb, if you want to live there that's your business. I just don't want them to try and put suburban sprawl in an urban area. You come downtown for the vibes just as much as anything else and I don't think that you should have the same feeling in downtown that you have in West Chester. However I am not dissing W.C. I just want it to stay where it is and develop it's own character.

[Humlermw]

Originally Posted by aquila

Oh, I'll be the first to admit those 4-story red brick boxes plastered all over the western side of the Union Centre interchange make me want to puke each time I see them. But how much thought went into incorporating the same "older Cincinnati style of architecture" in the original Banks designs? Doesn't Cincinnati have enough of that look throughout downtown and OTR already?

I see your point but I think a mix of "Cincinnati" style with more modern touches as well as any personalization on the tenets part will be better than an all or nothing approach as I seem to have seen in the early renderings.

[aquila]

Originally Posted by Humlermw

I'm not anti-suburb, if you want to live there that's your business. I just don't want them to try and put suburban sprawl in an urban area.

I don't see how they could do that anyway. By definition, sprawl refers to the blatant raping of land for unorganized/unplanned commercial/residential purposes. There is no land downtown that hasn't already been occupied in some way or another in the past. Don't forget, at one time every neighborhood in Cincinnati was the result of "sprawl". Downtown itself wasn't always a blacktopped grid of streets and buildings. How about when people started raping the Mt. Adams hillside so they could put up their "suburban looking" modern homes on stilts?

Basically you're just concerned about the design of the project - not the fact that's it's being built, right?

Originally Posted by Humlermw

You come downtown for the vibes just as much as anything else and I don't think that you should have the same feeling in downtown that you have in West Chester.

And what feeling would that be?

Originally Posted by Humlermw

However I am not dissing W.C. I just want it to stay where it is and develop it's own character.

I think it's trying to do that, but it constantly gets knocked down by urban enthusiasts who think the urban experience is somehow far superior than the suburban.

[aquila]

I should probably just back out of this whole thread.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by aquila

Don't forget, at one time every neighborhood in Cincinnati was the result of "sprawl".

Growth and white-flight are two different things.

Let's see some projects, aquila!!!!