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No one. The eternal existence of energy is easier to understand than the eternal existence of God. Not that I'm suggesting that God didn't always exist. But if SOMETHING didn't always exist without having first been created then NOTHING would have existence. So, either God, or energy, or both has always existed.
But if SOMETHING didn't always exist without having first been created then NOTHING would have existence. So, either God, or energy, or both has always existed.
Agreed, this is exactly what I said earlier but using different words.
The Christian answer is that God has always existed.
Energy may have also always existed, depending on how you define it. Energy may be something like a material byproduct of God's essence, or something to that effect.
So because someone didn't cut off one of Mary's fingers (relic) to preserve it you think that means that Mary had to have been assumed into heaven? Religion has its absurdities.
Well, given the proliferation of relics in the early Church, how would you explain the absence of Marian relics?
Matter is energy its called mass.Mass is the amount of energy a object holds. It is simply in a different form. Everything is energy - 4.9 % of the energy released from the big bang was converted to matter which is the material Universe that we see and interact will.It was not made out of nothing.You could ask where did the energy come from.
Ever heard of E=MC2 the equation works both ways matter to energy and energy to matter.
I think the question is more to do with faith than science.
Jesus, being the perfect Son who honored His Mother perfectly; would He have allowed her body to decay and become corrupt?
Honoring His Mother has nothing to do with allowing her body to decay.
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What is the alternative explanation for the fact that there are no relics from the Blessed Virgin Mary's body and never have been other than that her body was assumed into heaven?
There are none from Jesus either.
Faith is based on what is not seen, and not on what we see.
Honoring His Mother has nothing to do with allowing her body to decay.
You would say that allowing her to become a rotting corpse, while having the power to prevent this, is honoring her?
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There are none from Jesus either.
Well yes; that's because He ascended, Body and Soul into heaven! Sound familiar?
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Faith is based on what is not seen, and not on what we see.
Not sure what you're saying here. Faith is *defined* (not based on) as a belief in what is unseen. If one has seen, then faith becomes definitionally impossible.
No one. The eternal existence of energy is easier to understand than the eternal existence of God. Not that I'm suggesting that God didn't always exist. But if SOMETHING didn't always exist without having first been created then NOTHING would have existence. So, either God, or energy, or both has always existed.
Hi Michael,
”All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:3)
Doesn’t all mean all? Doesn’t nothing mean nothing?
“For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. (Colossians 1:16-17)
Visible and invisible leaves out any other possibilities.
One must outright reject the Scriptures to hold the belief that God did NOT create the universe ex nihilo.
You would say that allowing her to become a rotting corpse, while having the power to prevent this, is honoring her?
No, I would say Jesus’ allowing her corpse to rot has nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus honoring His Mother. It has to do with the natural process of all living things decomposing.
Why is the Assumption of Mary not in Scripture? Why doesn’t it show up in church history for six to eight centuries? How do you explain this?
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Well yes; that's because He ascended, Body and Soul into heaven! Sound familiar?
Jesus was resurrected. Mary was not. If she had been, we would have read about it. If she’d been assumed, as the RCC claims, then John, who was much younger than Mary, would have surely known about it. He would have written about such an important and notable event. But he didn’t.
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Not sure what you're saying here. Faith is *defined* (not based on) as a belief in what is unseen. If one has seen, then faith becomes definitionally impossible.
By faith you & I believe that God created the world from nothing. His word tells us that He spoke everything into existence. We believe it! That’s all the proof we need. That is our evidence. Others on this forum don’t believe God created the world from nothing.
Faith comes from hearing the word of God. There is no evidence from God’s word to have faith in the teaching of the assumption of Mary.
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