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P London, what country do you live in again? Were you really going to expect a European country to devote a huge amount of time to non-European history in compulsory education? I mean really Welcome to living in a country where the vast majority of people don't share your ancestry
Well yes why not? We don't live on Planet Europe but Planet Earth heard of it?
My mother is Mexican, my father American. I recently got my DNA results from www.23andme.com and found that I have 12.5% Native American DNA. I have since searched the internet and found that 80% of Mexicans come from the Apaches. I always felt a connection to the American Indians and now I know why.
WOAH, talk about being incredibly incorrect. Let's not make assumptions. The diversity of the natives people of the Americas is immense. In fact, there is more of a genetic difference between a random tribe from southern Mexico and a random tribe from, lets say Northeast USA, than there is between a French and a Chinese.
Ok, I found an actual study with full text it states that "Native Americans display the lowest genetic diversity of any continental group but there is high divergence among subpopulations".
I'm not sure why this should be a surprise to anyone. During Spanish colonial rule, Spanish men were the overwhelming majority of settlers who arrived in the new world, with few Spanish women settling in the colonies during the first century of Spanish rule. The offspring of the mixed marriages between Spanish men and indigenous women produced mestizo (mixed-race) offspring. Subsequent Spanish settlers of higher social status often married with mestiza girls, in effect produced "castizos" (3/4 European). Over subsequent generations this pattern reproduced itself resulting in a "whitening" of the criollos or Spaniards in the colony. However, most of the Spaniards lived in the cities and towns, with some being large landowners in the country and lording over mostly indigenous or African peasants/slaves.
Unmixed Indians remained the vast majority of inhabitants in colonial Mexico along with colonial Peru. The second largest group were mestizos of mixed Indian and mixed Spanish background. There were also quite a few African slaves brought to work in the Veracruz area, and many of their descendants eventually blended into the Indian and Mestizo population. This process of mixing continues to this day, so that the vast majority of Mexicans have at least some indigenous ancestry. Keep in mind that Mexico received few European immigrants after the 18th century. By contrast, Argentina and Uruguay continued to receive large numbers of European immigrants until the 1960s. Coincidentally, Cuba received a large number of Spanish immigrants between the 1880s and 1920s. Venezuela too received large numbers of European immigrants between the 1940s and 1970s, from Spain, Portugal and Italy.
Very large number of not only mexicans, but canadians, Americans, south Americans etc have native amerindian DNA!!
Unless I'm misunderstanding this comment....I'm focusing on "Americans" as in the US?
South America, Central America and the Latin Caribbean, has the largest contribution of Native American admixture, in varying degrees. That is seen in admixture mapping.
The population DNA structure for North America (US and Canada) does not include "Native American" DNA component. In the US for example, the population White Americans in general (descended from colonials) are less than 3% of Native American DNA and 5% for the [Colonial] African American population. It is more common to find small degrees of Sub-Saharan African blood in colonial White Americans due to the close interactions between Whites and slaves (Blacks, Mulattoes 1/2, Quadroons 1/4 and Octoroons 1/8).
Native Americans in the early colonial period were not part of the mainstream population in the US and had little interaction as a whole population during the earliest contact. The west ward expansion into Indian Country (west of the Mississippi River) did not start until the mid-1800's) with contact to the Plains tribes.
White colonial men would often father children from mixed race Blacks. US Indians were not having babies with Whites that freely and with considerably regularity that the Native component would be introduced into the "White" American population. Fur traders who traveled into Indian territory would acquire Indian wives as a peace offering between White men and tribes. Tribes may raid white settlements and take a White women. There was hostility between the two. The largest tribes in the Southeast of the US who accepted Whites largely and Blacks were the 5 Civilized tribes (Creek, Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminole). Many Indian Blood Myths are spawned via these tribes. These were federally documented Indian tribes. Even with these tribes becoming very admixed, did not change the genetic landscape of the US population (not including Hispanics). Many White Americans who lay claim on Native American ancestry on this forum and abroad on others include this in their ancestry (never Black ancestry) though even wildly undocumented, will take a DNA (autosomal) test primarily without Native American present but a small smidge of Sub-Saharan African is more common. A small handful will find this (Native American) present in their DNA.
This can be explained very easily. The segregation of Native Americans was done swift and quickly in the US and First Nations placing tribes onto government reservations by FRAUDLANT treaties never upheld by the federal government.
Latin American interacted freely with Native Americans. They did not envision a Latin America without Native's. The US did. Yes, the men were worked to death and the European men took Indian wives which is why Native American admixture is found as a component in the population. Latin American mixed very early with Natives in the Americans.
Have a good day.
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My mother is Mexican, my father American. I recently got my DNA results from www.23andme.com and found that I have 12.5% Native American DNA. I have since searched the internet and found that 80% of Mexicans come from the Apaches. I always felt a connection to the American Indians and now I know why.
Many of the Mexican tribes came from the north. Half, or maybe more, of the tribes in the Uto-Aztecan family are in the US. Those are unrelated to the Apaches, an Athabaskan tribe (or group of tribes), who came to the SW from Alaska/northern Canada. There aren't any Athabaskans in Mexico. There are a lot of Uto-Aztecans, and also Mayans.
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Welcome to living in a country where the vast majority of people don't share your ancestry
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