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Old 05-14-2022, 08:17 PM
 
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Between this and Milwaukee it’s 2 mass shootings in a day. Sad.

https://vanlifewanderer.com/2022/04/...ffalo-ny-safe/

Both city’s are in the top 6 for murder rates based on this article sadly.
It's a sad day to be sure. What's even worse is they will blame the guns, rather than the person
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Old 05-14-2022, 09:33 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Lack of execution is a big problem in our country. Some will say "but it doesn't deter crime" by using stats from states that use it 9-10 times a year. Big whoop. We need 100+ per month in most states, if not more.
Absolutely, if criminals and killers were executed or life in hard labor they would think twice. And the word would spread. This accountability wouldn’t solve all the horrible things like this but it’s a good start. It’s not the weapon it’s the person.
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Old 05-15-2022, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It's a sad day to be sure. What's even worse is they will blame the guns, rather than the person
Except, the outcome would have been different if he didn't have a gun, or at the very least easy access to one.
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Old 05-15-2022, 02:30 AM
 
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I’m also hearing the aspect of how this guy with body and locked/loaded is allowed to live while suspects of color, even when surrendering or unarmed, make some officers fearful of their lives. This is something I’m seeing on other social media outlets.

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Old 05-15-2022, 03:00 AM
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Actually Rochester has a black population of 40%, Buffalo is 2nd with 34%, Syracuse 29.4%. Took him over 3 hrs to drive here vs 2 hrs and 20 minutes to get to Rochester. I don't wish something like this on anyone and agree - quick trial and the death penalty.
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Old 05-15-2022, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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It's a sad day to be sure. What's even worse is they will blame the guns, rather than the person
Why is that "even worse"? Seems to me that the mass murder is the worst part. In any case, a lot of folks will blame the person as well as the guns, not just one or the other.
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Old 05-15-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Why is that "even worse"? Seems to me that the mass murder is the worst part. In any case, a lot of folks will blame the person as well as the guns, not just one or the other.
Thank you for your post of reasoned & thoughtful words here.

Your addressing of the "even worse" comment from a prior poster is spot on! Their comment and framing of this terrible crime into zero sum terms is personally repulsive to me!
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Old 05-15-2022, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Here is a much longer thread for those interested:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...g-upstate.html
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Old 05-15-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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much love, thoughts and prayers to the good citizens of buffalo
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Old 05-15-2022, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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Wow...That is crazy.

Good point as Buffalo does have the biggest black/African American population in Upstate NY and is only second behind NYC in black population in the state(5th biggest in the Northeast).

I'm also thinking that he took I-86 west to Route 219 or I-390 to Route 20 A to Buffalo, as that route is toll free and doesn't have the cameras that the Thruway has. In turn, you bypass Rochester and Syracuse taking that route.

Personally I was wondering why he chose it over NYC since both are the same distance from him and I'm sure someone with his mentality would consider NYC to be America's "Sodom and Gomorrah". But maybe your theory about skipping tolls and cameras had something to do with it.

Speaking of NYC, channel 7 down here 11pm news literally devoted half the broadcast to it and for about 5 minutes even switched to simulcasted feed from their affiliated (also channel 7, even uses same logo) 11pm news in Buffalo. Not from there but my sister has lived there for the past 30 years as a college professor and my daughter is a freshman at UB (who I'm picking up next weekend to take home for the summer) so I have significant connections and we are all shaken to the core! What a horrible way for such a great underrated city to get on national and world news.

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Here is a much longer thread for those interested:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...g-upstate.html
Before commenting here I took a look there.....45 minutes of my life I will never get back! It's scary how many posters there (not the majority but more than one or two) seem to borderline sympathize with this neo-Nazi scumbug and seem to blame the very people who were vicitimized! Our country almost literally is going to hell.....

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