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From what I see people seem to be moving more toward a humanistic type "spirituality" approach instead of an authoritative religious approach.
I agree with that assessment. I certainly see that in my old hometown. Our catholic church used to have 16 masses a week, now they have 1 mass a week. I think when the church started telling parishoners who they could and couldn't vote for, that many were not willing to swallow that sort of dictatorial approach, and the drift began. The priest sex scandals took another toll. It's been downhill ever since.
Many people don't even think about these topics. They simply go with what they've always known.
I began to question religion after my brief stint with going to church. My questions were only answered with " you must have faith." Well no, I'm quite capable of thinking, reading ,and researching. It's just not in my DNA to be a good sheeple.
You are ignoring the factor of evangelicals. They drew away a considerable number of catholics in my home town.
While these people may have shifted from one flavor of Christianity to another - from the perspective of the atheist, that doesn’t matter. Both “sides†are becoming more hostile to nonbelievers as time goes on.
Coming in cold, the Op - well, who cares what Christians say about atheism. They know nothing about it and don't want to know. They were wrong with 'New atheism' (which is just old atheism that refused to keep quiet) and are wrong that New (or old) atheism is dead, or there is any New, new atheism. I don't even think its' ignorance, it is propaganda, and what a situation with a religion claiming the High Moral ground resorting to the dirty tricks of political propaganda. But the New New Christianity is now all about political propaganda. As Critical Drinker says "Believe That!".
But we seem to have got onto the decline of religion. It's probably too soon (if ever) for rival religions to band together (last time was to counter the Shout of Doubt after the Tsunami) to stand against the threat of the atheists (cooled down after the last panic following the Pe review).
I imagine with even more politicisation of religion, they are going to be less tolerant of wrong believers than ever.
I am always bemused by the continued support of Catholics for that religion. You'd think with the dirty washing of the Vatican, hung out to dry, they'd have had enough, but they just carry on with faith. Maybe a 'Where else are we to go? We know you have the secrets of Life' situation. Mind, it was the scandal in Ireland that definitely started a move to shift Catholicism from a position of influence in Ireland. No wonder they now have the world No 1 Rugby team.
"Now thou hast turned thy face from the shills and liars of that fake religion, my children, thou mayest thrash the Springboks."
Coming in cold, the Op - well, who cares what Christians say about atheism. They know nothing about it and don't want to know. They were wrong with 'New atheism' (which is just old atheism that refused to keep quiet) and are wrong that New (or old) atheism is dead, or there is any New, new atheism. I don't even think its' ignorance, it is propaganda, and what a situation with a religion claiming the High Moral ground resorting to the dirty tricks of political propaganda. But the New New Christianity is now all about political propaganda. As Critical Drinker says "Believe That!".
But we seem to have got onto the decline of religion. It's probably too soon (if ever) for rival religions to band together (last time was to counter the Shout of Doubt after the Tsunami) to stand against the threat of the atheists (cooled down after the last panic following the Pe review).
I imagine with even more politicisation of religion, they are going to be less tolerant of wrong believers than ever.
I am always bemused by the continued support of Catholics for that religion. You'd think with the dirty washing of the Vatican, hung out to dry, they'd have had enough, but they just carry on with faith. Maybe a 'Where else are we to go? We know you have the secrets of Life' situation. Mind, it was the scandal in Ireland that definitely started a move to shift Catholicism from a position of influence in Ireland. No wonder they now have the world No 1 Rugby team.
"Now thou hast turned thy face from the shills and liars of that fake religion, my children, thou mayest thrash the Springboks."
I'm very glad yo are back, and as usual with your excellent insights.
Hi Phet. good to see you all...and ol' Mystic posting approvals. Same ol' Mystic or has he had an Epiphany?
No, it is the same old dance, with the same old excuses that lead back to where we need to explain why is arguments are very bad.
Are you tired of the chamber music, and returned for the chamber pot philosophy, or is this just a casual visit?
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I began to question religion after my brief stint with going to church. My questions were only answered with " you must have faith." Well no, I'm quite capable of thinking, reading ,and researching. It's just not in my DNA to be a good sheeple.
