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Old 05-18-2024, 04:56 AM
 
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I'd lift all height restrictions in downtown Syracuse and surrounding neighborhoods so that developers are free to build skyscrapers up to about 700 feet high.

The Syracuse skyline is just depressing. Imagine if the skyline of Pittsburgh was replaced with the skyline of Syracuse? Pittsburgh would be so much more depressing and would have a more difficult time attracting and retaining talent to fill all the skilled jobs.

If developers were encouraged to build modern attractive apartments buildings and condos 400 feet to 700 feet tall in Syracuse, not only would it help the city become a dense walkable lively place but it would create a whole new image for Syracuse. A new image of what Syracuse has to offer that is more positive and less depressing.
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Old 05-18-2024, 10:22 AM
 
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I'd lift all height restrictions in downtown Syracuse and surrounding neighborhoods so that developers are free to build skyscrapers up to about 700 feet high.

The Syracuse skyline is just depressing. Imagine if the skyline of Pittsburgh was replaced with the skyline of Syracuse? Pittsburgh would be so much more depressing and would have a more difficult time attracting and retaining talent to fill all the skilled jobs.

If developers were encouraged to build modern attractive apartments buildings and condos 400 feet to 700 feet tall in Syracuse, not only would it help the city become a dense walkable lively place but it would create a whole new image for Syracuse. A new image of what Syracuse has to offer that is more positive and less depressing.
Why is the skyline “depressing”? If anything, depending on where you view it, it looks either bigger than expected due to the proximity of Downtown and University Hill near each other(from say Upper Onondaga Park) or you have the hills in the background if you are coming in from the north.

Also, as mentioned, Syracuse needs infill first, as there are areas where the built environment(meaning the structure of the neighborhood) has gaps that could/should be filled. Demand will determine if high rises of that height are needed/necessary.
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Old 05-19-2024, 12:24 AM
 
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Why is the skyline “depressing”? If anything, depending on where you view it, it looks either bigger than expected due to the proximity of Downtown and University Hill near each other(from say Upper Onondaga Park) or you have the hills in the background if you are coming in from the north.

Also, as mentioned, Syracuse needs infill first, as there are areas where the built environment(meaning the structure of the neighborhood) has gaps that could/should be filled. Demand will determine if high rises of that height are needed/necessary.
Here is an older picture(as the then Carrier Dome looks different now) of the skyline from the bolded shot(or from a similar view): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracu...se_skyline.jpg

Also, a picture from the air shooting from the north towards the south: https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf6.myportfo...3c88107de1c463

A newer shot at night(can zoom in) from the north/NE(perhaps Prospect Hill on the North Side near St. Joseph's Hospital): https://www.reddit.com/media?url=htt...rw608dgv71.jpg
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Old 05-19-2024, 12:32 AM
 
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The Syracuse skyline is a box shape, just a bunch of midrise buildings. A pyramid shape looks so much better.

Charlotte, North Carolina had a great looking pyramid shape skyline for years. One very tall skyscraper surrounded by shorter skyscrapers about 75 percent as tall.

If the new Syracuse skyscrapers had the correct architecture the vibe of Syracuse would drastically improve virtually over night. Then Syracuse would not have as much trouble attracting new residents, and talented people to fill skilled jobs and retain them.

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Old 05-19-2024, 09:01 AM
 
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The Syracuse skyline is a box shape, just a bunch of midrise buildings. A pyramid shape looks so much better.

Charlotte, North Carolina had a great looking pyramid shape skyline for years. One very tall skyscraper surrounded by shorter skyscrapers about 75 percent as tall.

If the new Syracuse skyscrapers had the correct architecture the vibe of Syracuse would drastically improve virtually over night. Then Syracuse would not have as much trouble attracting new residents, and talented people to fill skilled jobs and retain them.
Syracuse actually has variety in the skyline(Art Deco, a Domed stadium, multi shaped, etc.) and it isn’t going to be like Charlotte, which is much bigger in land area than Syracuse than it is in population. As mentioned, Syracuse needs to be a better version of itself and it starts with other things, not its skyline.

Syracuse has also had a population increase the last official Census. So, that illustrates that other things attract people to a city.

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Old 05-20-2024, 10:05 AM
 
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Make most large new suburban housing developments have

1. Sidewalks

2. Short driveways so less shoveling snow in winter

3. Thin long deep large backyards

4. Shorter distance between homes to create density

One main advantage the Syracuse suburbs have over many fast growing communities in the south and west are the large backyards for affordable single family homes. If the Syracuse area wants to keep that perk of living here vs. Las Vegas, Southern California, Bay Area, Myrtle Beach, Dallas, many parts of Florida is to have deep, long backyards like in many parts of England. That way, people can still have big gardens but live in walkable dense neighborhood.
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Old 05-20-2024, 10:13 AM
 
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Make most large new suburban housing developments have

1. Sidewalks

2. Short driveways so less shoveling snow in winter

3. Thin long deep large backyards

4. Shorter distance between homes to create density

One main advantage the Syracuse suburbs have over many fast growing communities in the south and west are the large backyards for affordable single family homes. If the Syracuse area wants to keep that perk of living here vs. Las Vegas, Southern California, Bay Area, Myrtle Beach, Dallas, many parts of Florida is to have deep, long backyards like in many parts of England. That way, people can still have big gardens but live in walkable dense neighborhood.
This is essentially older suburbia in the area like Mattydale and Pitcher Hill(North Syracuse SD), Nedrow(Onondaga Central SD), Park Hill/Parkwood area of DeWitt/ES-M SD, Galeville(Liverpool SD), Lakeland(Solvay SD), Westvale(laregly Westhill SD, with some in the West Genesee SD), Fairmount(West Genesee SD)etc. just adding sidewalks or doing so extensively.

Lyncourt(Lyncourt SD until 8th grade with option to Solvay or ES-M for HS) and the DeWittshire area of DeWitt(Jamesville-DeWitt SD) are older suburban communities with this built environment, including sidewalks.

So, this may be a matter of adding some infrastructure in some communities and replicating those latter two communities in terms of future suburban development.

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Old 05-20-2024, 06:27 PM
 
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Expand affordable high speed internet across the whole Syracuse Metropolitan area. ..

https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-...t-across-city/

Expand coverage of high speed internet in rural areas too.

Also expand cell phone service in rural areas in the Syracuse metropolitan area
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Old 05-20-2024, 06:42 PM
 
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^In terms of Onondaga County, you do have this: https://www.syracuse.com/news/2022/1...and-grant.html

Keep in mind that when you say the Syracuse metropolitan area, that includes Madison and Oswego Counties. looking at those counties, it looks like they have got the ball rolling a little bit in terms of the topic: https://www.madisoncounty.ny.gov/276...roadband-Proje

https://www.oswegocounty.com/news_detail_T17_R1352.php
https://www.oswegocounty.com/news_detail_T17_R2791.php
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:06 PM
 
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Thanks for the links. It is good to see progress in expanding high speed internet to the rural areas.

Another idea is to get a grant (or use grant money to combat lead) to buy a ZeroWater filter for all poor households in Onondaga County.

https://zerowater.com/collections/al...ilter-products

I use it myself. It filters out lead and other toxins so you can safely drink tap water.

The only issue with this is every few months you need a new water filter.
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