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Old 08-25-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Connecticut is mostly forested, the English countryside is mostly farmed so they wouldn't look similar. And yes, it's hard for me to tell what people elsewhere perceive my region.
Actually i've looked at the towns that he talked about and it's like where I live.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.12815...88.76,,0,-2.19
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Belfast looks rather compact for American standards. You mentioned being able to take a train to Belfast when you're well outside the city. That wouldn't be common in most of the US.
But then again Northern Ireland isn't 2x the size of Europe.
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Actually i've looked at the towns that he talked about and it's like where I live.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.12815...88.76,,0,-2.19
What % of people live in areas like you do in Northern Ireland? The difference is far more people in CT live spread out areas like that [though you picked an extremely wealthy area].
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:09 AM
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But then again Northern Ireland isn't 2x the size of Europe.
But some spots like the Northeast aren't too different distance-wise. I'm about 90 miles from Boston, there's train service to Boston whatsoever here.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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https://maps.google.com/maps?q=drena...,330.1,,0,0.78


I have no idea but we have alot of people living in the countryside.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:15 AM
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That American view you posted isn't countryside, it's suburbia. It wouldn't count as rural in American measures.

A came up with 36% of Northern Ireland is rural, higher than England. Connecticut would be much lower, but the standards for rural might be different there.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Well what is rural then.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Yep. Most British cities are quite compact, it's not just London. While they're mostly not denser than older Northeast US ones, they don't have the sprawling suburbs surrounding them and have healthier downtowns. By public transport use metro-wide, they'd be higher than all but a couple of North American cities.

Can't remember the source, but the % of people not owning a car, and the number of families with just one car rather than two is much higher in the UK, than all but small parts of the US. Still, most people have cars, so car ownership is maybe a 1/3 less than the US, not a different order of magnitude.
Yes, that is the key difference - we do not have the sprawling suburbia surrounding our cities. Suburbia here is far denser than in the US. London is definitely the densest city in the UK, but all British cities are relatively dense on the whole.

Not sure about public transport usage metro-wide, but I suspect you're right. The Tyne and Wear metro (partly underground), which serves Newcastle and Sunderland, has a daily ridership of 103,835. Manchester Metrolink has an average annual ridership of 25 million. These systems cover entire metro areas (Tyne and Wear has over a million, Greater Manchester over 2 million). If you combined general rail usage with Manchester's light rail figures, they'd be far higher, as it has an excellent suburban rail network. Meanwhile, Nottingham's light rail system has a daily ridership figure of 25,000, and that's a city of 309,000, while Sheffield's Supertram has a daily ridership figure of 41,000 (pop. 551,800), so would be highly placed in the US light rail league and similar to much bigger cities like Phoenix and Houston.

Only two large British cities do not have rapid transit systems - Leeds and Bristol. Ironically two of the more prosperous large cities, probably why they have benefited far less than other cities in terms of public spending.

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Old 08-25-2013, 10:25 PM
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Not sure about public transport usage metro-wide, but I suspect you're right. The Tyne and Wear metro (partly underground), which serves Newcastle and Sunderland, has a daily ridership of 103,835.
here's a source i found:

http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img...te%20share.jpg

cities names are in spanish. Newcastle has higher usage metro-wide then Chicago or San Francisco, which are both much larger, with denser cores, though lower density suburbs (San Francisco not quite as much). New York City by itself would be 71 on the chart, but there's a lot of suburbs surrounding it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Finland
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What % of people live in areas like you do in Northern Ireland? The difference is far more people in CT live spread out areas like that [though you picked an extremely wealthy area].
That is total wilderness!

THIS is suburbia (look 360): http://goo.gl/maps/trHVH

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