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Old 09-14-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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1. San Jose $78,700 (SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA REPRESENT SON!)
2. Charlotte $67,900
3. San Francisco $65,400 (AGAIN SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA! )
4. Washington $65,300
5. Brussels $63,700
6. Boston $59,000
7. Seattle $57,600
8. New York $56,200
9. Stockholm $55,100
10. Hartford $55,000
11. Denver $54,700
12. Minneapolis-St. Paul $54,600
13. Hamburg $53,500
14. Dallas-Fort Worth $53,000
15. Houston $51,900
16. Indianapolis $51,800
17. Philadelphia $50,100
18. San Diego $50,000
19. Atlanta $49,600
20. Los Angeles $49,100
21. Chicago $48,400
22. Salt Lake City $48,200
23. Milwaukee $47,800
24. Nashville $47,700
25. Columbus (Ohio) $47,700
26. Las Vegas $47,400
27. Vienna $47,000
28. Perth $46,700
29. Portland (Oregon) $46,600
30. Kansas City $46,400

http://www.demographia.com/db-intlmetgdp2005.pdf

Well its been a while since 2005 but almost all US cities are even richer now and some have surpassed the others. For example Charlotte once stood as the world's second richest metro has now likely dropped out of the top 15 altogether and its been replaced by DC. LA and Chicago have caught up to Dallas and Houston and NYC have caught up to Boston and Seattle!

Per capita income of US metros 2010
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa clara, CA $79,604
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT $78,650
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA $72,259
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV $67,344
Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA $61,282
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA $59,375
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH $58,754
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX $57,338
New York-Northern NJ-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA $55,957
Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO $55,612
Madison, WI $54,307
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI $53,835
New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA $52,974
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI $52,733
Salt Lake City, UT $52,158
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA $52,100
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington, TX $51,035
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA $50,889
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD $50,863
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA $50,769
Cheyenne, WY $50,471

^^ If you live in any of those places in the US, pat yourself on the back, you're creaming the US per capita income average and majority of the world LOL.

One thing is sure, the world's cities need to catch up to ours on income!

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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One thing is sure, the world's cities need to catch up to ours on income!
Or somebody needs to understand that GDP/GRP have nothing to do with income.

BTW, at GRP per capita Russia's Chukotka (one of the least nicest places) sure beats at least almost all of these metros. And Sakhalin. And even Moscow - which is one of the nicest (heavily populated) places in Russia and the world.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Or somebody needs to understand that GDP/GRP have nothing to do with income.

BTW, at GRP per capita Russia's Chukotka (one of the least nicest places) sure beats at least almost all of these metros. And Sakhalin. And even Moscow - which is one of the nicest (heavily populated) places in Russia and the world.
Even if it did it still does not take into account how evenly it is spread between the citizens , in a town of 10 poeple where nine of them earn 10K a year and the 10th person earns $910,000 a year, you could say that the average person in that town earns $100,000 a year, which is complete rubbish.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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Paris, London, and Frankfurt not in that list? Hard to believe that they're poorer than Milwaukee or KCMO And where's Tokyo??
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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By the way, the median household incomes are arguably a more accurate indicator of wealth:

Stats for 2008:

Metropolitan Statistical Area ranking $60,000+
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA $88,096
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV $85,824
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT $84,545
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA $76,860
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA $76,848
Trenton-Ewing, NJ $73,800
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH $71,361
Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY $70,757
Honolulu, HI $70,951
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA $70,635
Manchester-Nashua, NH $69,223
Fairbanks, AK $69,103
Norwich-New London, CT $68,62
Kahului-Wailuku, HI $67,619
Torrington, CT $67,281
Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT $67,171
Concord, NH $66,894
Worcester, MA $66,878
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA $67,466
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA $66,465
Boulder, CO $66,463
Baltimore-Towson, MD $66,122
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI $65,862
Napa, CA $65,158
New York-Northern-NJ-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA $64,747
Rochester, NY $63,842
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA $63,012
Olympia, WA $62,506
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA $62,238
Raleigh-Cary, NC $61,862
New Haven-Milford, CT $61,579
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA $61,543
Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI $61,295
Naples-Marco Island, FL $61,165
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA $61,029
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD $60,899
Madison, WI $60,850
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA $60,682
San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles, CA $60,534
Burlington-South Burilington, VT $60,499
Denver-Aurora, CO $60,344
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA $60,264
Ocean City, NJ $60,176
Salt Lake City, UT $60,012

Combined Statistical Area Ranking $60,000+

Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV $78,084
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA $77,247
Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH $66,723
Hartford-West Hartford-Willimantic, CT $65,895
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA $65,484
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA $64,875
Minneapolis-St Paul-St Cloud, MN-WI $64,458
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI $61,019
Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO $60,574
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD $60,253
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA $60,141
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Yuba City, CA-NV $60,031

American Factfinder, Community Survey of the US Census Bureau

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...me-2008-a.html
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:10 PM
 
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By the way, the median household incomes are arguably a more accurate indicator of wealth
Still meaningless. There's a huge cost of living difference even between US cities.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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Even if it did it still does not take into account how evenly it is spread between the citizens
If it did, then there would be median GDP. But since it doesn't - nobody bothers doing this. And it can't even be done, as there are no average (and any at all) earners in GDP.

Today GDP is used exclusively to brainwash people. It can't even be used anymore to measure economic growth - thanks to paper shuffling that pumps up GDP without creating anything.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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By the way, the median household incomes are arguably a more accurate indicator of wealth:
Your stats are incorrect in two different ways;

1) They're from 2008, not as recent as 2010 which was the last released income year.

2) ACS has always had incorrect numbers for wealth reports, they post that crap on wikiedpia and its incorrect. You have to go to bea.gov or bls.gov and the median household income duly reflects the same list that was in the latter part of my OP.

One more additional thing, if you're trying to argue median household income, then use total personal income and not GDP per capita because if you're trying to make the point of which cities are wealthiest by household size then it still remains SF Bay Area, DC, NYC, Boston, Houston, Seattle as the top tier.

You should really check your info man, the ACS is notorious for getting household value and wealth reports wrong, you should know in 2012 that your list is completely off base when you see a place like Atlanta or Phily on it but no sign of richer cities like Dallas or Houston or Miami.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Or somebody needs to understand that GDP/GRP have nothing to do with income.
Well this is still going to drive you crazy then because even when we look away from GDP and look at both total personal income and total per capita income of the US cities, they still dominate in the world.

Ironically the order stays the same as the 2010 list I posted of GDP per capita, LOL!

http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm...suri=1&acrdn=5

Face it, US cities are richer than Russian ones, whether you want to admit to it or not.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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Well this is still going to drive you crazy then because even when we look away from GDP and look at both total personal income and total per capita income of the US cities, they still dominate in the world.
By that measures they can't even dominate sub-arctic Chukotka.

And can you really name a city that dominates Moscow, according to your useless metrics? Even you should understand, how ridiculous it is to compare by numbers anything with Moscow the B.tch.
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