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Meh you guys must all be really lucky or have really really specialized jobs/professions. The kind where noone even knows what are you doing half the time which is the best kind of course yeah sure you were checking some inventory reports what's that game you have running in the background there? . Most people I know have never had good luck at the mega corporations. Mega corporations generally do not give a rats arse about their employees and the guy that works the hardest is usually the guy that never gets promoted or given any opportunity. Meanwhile the chick sleeping with the boss is the one getting the fat raises and promotions lol. Most of the employees at the mega corporations are invisible to the masses and just seen as a number. Talk to some Wal-Mart managers some time for example, they are treated really horrible from what I understand. Treated horrible by higher ups like at the corporate offices.
I think the specialization you posted about is the key to success at a large company. Pick a niche and devote yourself to it.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Is it just me or does it seem like the bigger a company is..the worse they are to work for? I guess when I say corporate America I mean like a Fortune 500 company. Also why does it seem like you are better off working for a private company instead of a public? Do public companies worry about the bottom line too much and are you more likely to just be a number? A private company will generally be a smaller company and possibly have more of a family atmosphere.
It is a trade off. Works like this:
SMALL CO
1. More family atmosphere
2. More responsibility to use judgment
3. Less supervision
4. Work is kind of "we will figure it out as we go along"
5. More non tangible rewards- recognition for accomplishments, dinners ect
6. More relaxed atmosphere
7. Less pay
8. Less or even no benefits
9. Less ability to "diffuse" responsibility (yes we DO notice when you are not at work)
10. More office politics. The most unpopular people usually get the worst work and get laid off first no matter if they are good employees or not.
LARGE CO
1. More pay
2. Better benefits
3. More supervision
5. Less discretion to make decisions or use judgment
6. Everything is to be "done by the book" and if it is not in the book, you have to ask your supervisor. You have no discretion to solve problems on your own.
7. No recognition for accomplishments on the job- much more emphasis on seniority (like my job where you get recognition for each 5 year anniversary but never for a great job or when you go above and beyond for a customer or the company)
8. Less "politics" - people you do not know assign your jobs and lay offs are done by order of seniority (which can be good or bad)
9. More "diffusion". They do not notice when you are not there and they do not call you on vacation.
SMALL CO
1. More family atmosphere
2. More responsibility to use judgment
3. Less supervision
4. Work is kind of "we will figure it out as we go along"
5. More non tangible rewards- recognition for accomplishments, dinners ect
6. More relaxed atmosphere
7. Less pay
8. Less or even no benefits
9. Less ability to "diffuse" responsibility (yes we DO notice when you are not at work)
10. More office politics. The most unpopular people usually get the worst work and get laid off first no matter if they are good employees or not.
LARGE CO
1. More pay
2. Better benefits
3. More supervision
5. Less discretion to make decisions or use judgment
6. Everything is to be "done by the book" and if it is not in the book, you have to ask your supervisor. You have no discretion to solve problems on your own.
7. No recognition for accomplishments on the job- much more emphasis on seniority (like my job where you get recognition for each 5 year anniversary but never for a great job or when you go above and beyond for a customer or the company)
8. Less "politics" - people you do not know assign your jobs and lay offs are done by order of seniority (which can be good or bad)
9. More "diffusion". They do not notice when you are not there and they do not call you on vacation.
6. Everything is to be "done by the book" and if it is not in the book, you have to ask your supervisor. You have no discretion to solve problems on your own.
7. No recognition for accomplishments on the job- much more emphasis on seniority (like my job where you get recognition for each 5 year anniversary but never for a great job or when you go above and beyond for a customer or the company)
I agree with these 2 points in regards to large companies and I think it's probably my biggest issues with them. Which is why I say if you're an all-star you're better off at a small company. At the big company you'll never be noticed and the boss usually takes credit for everything. At a smaller company if you're an all-star you have a much better chance of getting a high percentage raise because you have a higher chance of one of "real" bosses noticing you.
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I agree with these 2 points in regards to large companies and I think it's probably my biggest issues with them. Which is why I say if you're an all-star you're better off at a small company. At the big company you'll never be noticed and the boss usually takes credit for everything. At a smaller company if you're an all-star you have a much better chance of getting a high percentage raise because you have a higher chance of one of "real" bosses noticing you.
That is true but at a large corporation you start out so far ahead of a smaller business pay wise that it will often take you years to catch up.
Meh you guys must all be really lucky or have really really specialized jobs/professions. The kind where noone even knows what are you doing half the time which is the best kind of course yeah sure you were checking some inventory reports what's that game you have running in the background there? . Most people I know have never had good luck at the mega corporations. Mega corporations generally do not give a rats arse about their employees and the guy that works the hardest is usually the guy that never gets promoted or given any opportunity. Meanwhile the chick sleeping with the boss is the one getting the fat raises and promotions lol. Most of the employees at the mega corporations are invisible to the masses and just seen as a number. Talk to some Wal-Mart managers some time for example, they are treated really horrible from what I understand. Treated horrible by higher ups like at the corporate offices.
I agree that generally the guy that works the hardest never gets promoted or given any good opportunities. It's the guys that are friendliest with the boss and spend their time making themselves look good that get the opportunities. The hard workers? Well, they're valuable right where they are, so nobody wants to move them up.
Oh well, you just have to learn the game. If you've become known as a "hard-worker" at your current company, and it's clear that you won't be promoted, you just have to move to a different company.
I agree that generally the guy that works the hardest never gets promoted or given any good opportunities. It's the guys that are friendliest with the boss and spend their time making themselves look good that get the opportunities. The hard workers? Well, they're valuable right where they are, so nobody wants to move them up.
Oh well, you just have to learn the game. If you've become known as a "hard-worker" at your current company, and it's clear that you won't be promoted, you just have to move to a different company.
And that's a sad state of affairs. Oftentimes, those who are cool with the boss and spend time making themselves look good are those who do the least work, whereas workplace hustlers, ones who are the backbone of the company get passed over for raises and promotions, and that's not right. Put ME in charge of a major corporation and I'll shake it up big time.
All big companies are the same. It's a socialist environment. The slackers get paid almost as much as the all-stars. And the HR dept. is a royal pain in the ass requiring diversity training and multitudes of roadblocks to get your work done. On the plus side benefits and job stability are better; but again if you are an all-star or decent performer you shouldn't have a hard time keeping a job or finding a new one at smaller companies.
I agree that generally the guy that works the hardest never gets promoted or given any good opportunities. It's the guys that are friendliest with the boss and spend their time making themselves look good that get the opportunities. The hard workers? Well, they're valuable right where they are, so nobody wants to move them up.
Oh well, you just have to learn the game. If you've become known as a "hard-worker" at your current company, and it's clear that you won't be promoted, you just have to move to a different company.
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And that's a sad state of affairs. Oftentimes, those who are cool with the boss and spend time making themselves look good are those who do the least work, whereas workplace hustlers, ones who are the backbone of the company get passed over for raises and promotions, and that's not right. Put ME in charge of a major corporation and I'll shake it up big time.
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All big companies are the same. It's a socialist environment. The slackers get paid almost as much as the all-stars. And the HR dept. is a royal pain in the ass requiring diversity training and multitudes of roadblocks to get your work done. On the plus side benefits and job stability are better; but again if you are an all-star or decent performer you shouldn't have a hard time keeping a job or finding a new one at smaller companies.
Yup, yup, and yup that's pretty much it.
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. Most people I know have never had good luck at the mega corporations. Mega corporations generally do not give a rats arse about their employees and the guy that works the hardest is usually the guy that never gets promoted or given any opportunity. Meanwhile the chick sleeping with the boss is the one getting the fat raises and promotions lol. Most of the employees at the mega corporations are invisible to the masses and just seen as a number. Talk to some Wal-Mart managers some time for example, they are treated really horrible from what I understand. Treated horrible by higher ups like at the corporate offices.
