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Old 06-10-2022, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Sorry for your situation. This sounds strange to me. An employee fails a drug test, so they fire him, but invite him to re-apply for the job where he is screened and interviewed by the same people as before. I'm all for drug testing, but I don't see what the point was in firing him just to go through the efforts to rehire him. Usually when an employee is terminated for failing a drug test, they don't make efforts to recruit them.

I think he should look for a job elsewhere and not bet on the rehire. Because someone there might refuse to make him eligible for rehire for failing a drug test and they would have a good argument. It doesn't matter if it is legal or not, stop the marijuana use. As we can see in this example, no good comes from it.
All this, and I would question the common sense of an employee who knows they are subject to random drug tests but persists in smoking weed.
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Old 06-10-2022, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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So he has a good city job (presumably) as a mechanic and gets fired for failing a drug test that he could reasonably expect. I'm also not sure I understand why the same entity would encourage him to re-apply. I wouldn't. He's a mechanic for God's sake. You want a stoner working on equipment? My guess is some higher up is putting the kabosh on the rehire.
What kind of agency keeps hiring back people who fail drug tests?

The 2nd company likely knows he was fired for failing the drug test, so why would they hire him? I wouldn't.
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Old 06-10-2022, 08:18 AM
 
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This shows how trivial drug testing can be. Why anyone would care if a mechanic tokes up on his own time is beyond me. I'd rather hire someone who is a marijuana user than someone who binge drinks or drinks daily.

Regardless, if it were me I'd send a gentle follow-up email or phone call to the hiring manager (or HR person) and ask for an update and reiterate how thankful he is to continue his career with them.
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:32 AM
 
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All this, and I would question the common sense of an employee who knows they are subject to random drug tests but persists in smoking weed.
Before he thought they would only do a random drug test if there was reason to, but he didn't realize it's basically a lottery and certain amount of people are picked every so often.

However, since that day he has completely quit smoking and thrown out all his paraphernalia. He hasn't smoked now for almost 4 months...and I'm very glad of it! He realizes he can't be doing that anymore for the jobs he's applied for.
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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So he has a good city job (presumably) as a mechanic and gets fired for failing a drug test that he could reasonably expect. I'm also not sure I understand why the same entity would encourage him to re-apply. I wouldn't. He's a mechanic for God's sake. You want a stoner working on equipment? My guess is some higher up is putting the kabosh on the rehire.
What kind of agency keeps hiring back people who fail drug tests?

The 2nd company likely knows he was fired for failing the drug test, so why would they hire him? I wouldn't.
BUT, regardless of that, he should get an email telling him where he placed in the registry and what his score was and/or an email saying "Sorry you aren't our choice" if he didn't get it.
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Old 06-10-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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This shows how trivial drug testing can be. Why anyone would care if a mechanic tokes up on his own time is beyond me. I'd rather hire someone who is a marijuana user than someone who binge drinks or drinks daily.

Regardless, if it were me I'd send a gentle follow-up email or phone call to the hiring manager (or HR person) and ask for an update and reiterate how thankful he is to continue his career with them.
Exactly! He could have had a toke weeks prior and it would still show up on his test. I agree that I'd rather have that than a guy who was up all night drinking and comes in with a hangover and barely any sleep!
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Old 06-10-2022, 10:49 AM
 
Location: California
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Sometimes, they just string people along to maintain a pool of applicants to chose from, but are not actually passed along for consideration. Also, merit based hiring does not exist anymore, I saw their non-white hiring/admission bias when I worked in a college HR. The results are obvious for both hiring and admissions. That is not to say that either situation applies here but unless your DH has a friend in the hiring position, it is time to move on. There are many business where drugs are overlooked by the owners.
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Old 06-10-2022, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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BUT, regardless of that, he should get an email telling him where he placed in the registry and what his score was and/or an email saying "Sorry you aren't our choice" if he didn't get it.
Others have explained possible reasons for the delay. I would not hold my breath on this one.

Drug testing exists for a reason, particularly in his field. It's unfortunate he was encouraged to reapply. I would think a failed drug test (with the same company) would put you out of the running immediately but times have changed. Good luck.
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Old 06-10-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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Sometimes, they just string people along to maintain a pool of applicants to chose from, but are not actually passed along for consideration. Also, merit based hiring does not exist anymore, I saw their non-white hiring/admission bias when I worked in a college HR. The results are obvious for both hiring and admissions. That is not to say that either situation applies here but unless your DH has a friend in the hiring position, it is time to move on. There are many business where drugs are overlooked by the owners.
Well like I said before, he knew all 3 people in the second interview-his previous manager, the dept head and a day shift manager and it was the dept head who really liked him, actually called him about a week after he got fired and said they would love to have him back. He encouraged him to re-apply and basically said (from what my husband told me) that the job was pretty much his telling him "We'll get back to you quicker than last time. We just have to let HR do their thing". To me that sounds like they want him back. And if not, they would definitely send him something letting him know.
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Old 06-10-2022, 12:26 PM
 
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BUT, regardless of that, he should get an email telling him where he placed in the registry and what his score was and/or an email saying "Sorry you aren't our choice" if he didn't get it.
Maybe no news is good news.
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