Are people REALLY quitting over being called back to the office? [MERGED] (job offer, employees)
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If so, doesn't it mean that employers have a "loophole" to get rid of someone without them collecting unemployment - just demand them to return to the office in full, 9-5, and let them quit and be denied unemployment?
Or are people actually getting other jobs lined up *just in case* the employer schedules an office return date?
Something about what is being said in the media seems really weird. What is really going on? Are employees willing to effectively cede their right to ever claim unemployment.....all because they don't want to go back to the office?
Last edited by PJSaturn; 04-09-2022 at 08:47 PM..
Reason: Merged 2 threads on same topic.
If so, doesn't it mean that employers have a "loophole" to get rid of someone without them collecting unemployment - just demand them to return to the office in full, 9-5, and let them quit and be denied unemployment?
Or are people actually getting other jobs lined up *just in case* the employer schedules an office return date?
Something about what is being said in the media seems really weird. What is really going on? Are employees willing to effectively cede their right to ever claim unemployment.....all because they don't want to go back to the office?
My company had 20% of the workforce quit when they got called back into the office. A lot of them went to other companies that were offering work from home. I myself overheard a few people talking about how they were leaving by X date because they'd been looking for permanent work-from-home jobs and found one. Supposedly, this got so bad the the board of directors told the CEO to work on a hybrid solution. However, I'm very skeptical this will ever come to fruition.
If someone gets ahead of themselves, yes, the job market does obliterate entitlement mentality.
"I got my first job ten minutes ago! I'm going to quit and get a better job with a 20k bump" --- uh no. Not happening kiddo.
And before the usual suspects complain: YES, I'm using hyperbole here.
In addition, the job market rarely stays "worker's market" for long.
I still remember how nasty the dot com crash was.
Top talent turned into zeroes overnight.
Over the long run, the job market obliterates entitlement mentality.
The Dot Com Bust was predicated on the Dot Com Boom generating more revenue than what CONgress had anticipated. This surplus caused the first fiscal year without a budget deficit, and thus no new Federal Reserve Notes were borrowed into existence (Title 12 USC Sec 411). THAT lack of new FRNs triggered the bust, not unlike the Crash of 1929, when circulating mediums were suddenly sucked out of the market by loans being called due on demand, etc., etc.
The skyrocketing National Debt, a consequence of a government taxing 4 trillions while spending 6+ trillions per year, is keeping the non-workers off the market. When gubmint stops the entitlement train, if ever, then we'll see the end of the worker's market.
Of course, that is a simplified outline of the situation. But details are long and boring.
I am sur there are some folks that are willing to quit rather than heed the call back to the office, especially if, as others have said, they can find a comparable remote work position at another company. But I think asserting that this gives employers a "loophole" to avoid cases going toward their unemployment experience seems far-fetched. An employer likely won't know exactly which if its employees would make that choice so it would be risking losing the employees it actually wants to keep. I really can't see employers deciding to bring people back to the office hoping a bunch of them will quit.
A friend of mine is getting ready to quit soon due to upcoming return to office. Friend moved to a different state, knowing that return to office wouldn't be possible.
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