I've hit rock bottom! (pay, resumes, how much, good)
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I grew up in NYC. Got my Bachelor's and moved back in with my parents and was unemployed for close to 3 years, minus a temp job I did for 6-8 weeks and a stipend I received last summer for an otherwise unpaid internship. Felt depressed and trapped for most of that time.
It's one of many reasons I left NYC. Bachelor's are often considered worthless but beyond that- just for comparison - I started taking grad courses for a certificate program in spring 2017. Got a PT min wage job in fall of 2017 (to give a rough timeline, I finished undergrad end of 2014 which is where my 3 year estimate comes in). I still would get rejected even for things like sales associate or other basic entry level jobs while taking grad courses and having a more specialized background (not to mention another unpaid internship I'd been doing for almost 4 years...). Apparently, you need to have years of experience in even those types entry level, retail types of jobs to qualify.
My min wage job was at a poorly run little company that no one wanted to be at but we needed the money, most of us because we were apparently worthless to society college grads. And where i do have experience they typically look for a Master's so I really dug myself into a hole by pursuing my interests in a sense.
Relocated to finish out a Master's. I've been here about 5 weeks now, school's been going on for 4 (when more opportunities started coming up) and received a job offer on campus last week. I don't know how much of it has to do with moving and how much with just being enrolled in a grad program on paper. But I will say I found a job that pays higher than NYC's min wage (which is also higher than min wage here due to lower COL), in a matter of weeks. Whereas the closest I got pay-wise in NYC was that temp job and it wasn't very relevant to what I wanted to be doing. It involved knocking on doors in the projects and asking people if they wanted to take a survey... and I think you can see where I'm going.
So I do sympathize with OP. I do believe NYC can be form over function when it comes to employment (among other things), which makes it challenging for those who have a more meritocratic as opposed to image-based (e.g., "how do I look the part and say all the right things to impress the interviewer and show how unique I am?") orientation.
ETA: BTW, people do "gay for pay" (as in, they're not actually gay), but I get where you're coming from, OP, I can't get my head around how people do it myself.
Interesting. I never went to college, but I find it odd when I hear college grads have a hard time getting jobs. A Master's at that. Hope you are doing well man.
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Until whoever is taking care of him gets fed up (if a relative, that will be a long time).
Not sure why OP posted and asked for help. He's not taking any suggestions seriously and not in any hurry to earn money. May be getting unemployment while playing on the internet.
I am/did taking suggestions. I Had to borrow money from a loan shark to pay some bills.
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Work in a Call Center. Stressful, but always guaranteed a job with the high turnover rate in many of them
Look on indeed for some and didn't find much, but thanks friend.
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What skills do you bring to the table? Employers aren't looking to train anymore.
Finding that out the hard way. I Stated before the only skill that I have is in welding which I haven't done in years so...
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Its almost impossible to receive True feedback. Usually if you are able to get feedback the feedback is something generic like "they filled the role with another candidate" or a canned reason like "position "cancelled" or "put on hold".;. You will hardly ever get the "real reason" why you were called for the interview, the interview seemed to go well but for "some reason", some strange reason the hiring manager decided not to hire you.
What I hate is after the interview, they say they will call you, but never do. You can have job offers within that time and you turn them down thinking you got the job but you never hear from them again.. What a savage thing to do to someone.
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1) Uber you need your own vehicle 3 years or newer and I can't even imagine the amount for auto insurance each month
2) UPS starts you off at part time meaning around 20 hours a week at the starting wage of around $15 per hour.
I own a new truck, but I read that your insurance increases a substantial amount, which I can't afford right now(I Cancelled mines).
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What do you base that on? My employer, and every one of our partners and competitors, is all about training. We cannot survive without it.
Now, if you mean, "I should be able to walk in the door with no education, no skills, no experience; and they'll train me up and stick me in a six-figure job", you're right... nobody is willing to do that. Except the military!
Training takes up resources, and most people who ARE training the new hire wants to be compensated for training.
What I hate is after the interview, they say they will call you, but never do. You can have job offers within that time and you turn them down thinking you got the job but you never hear from them again.. What a savage thing to do to someone.
You never have the job until you actually start. I would recommend never turning anything down if it’s suitable, even if you accept a job and then decline right before you start because the other opportunity came through and you started that one.
This was never my mindset, but there is no more loyalty. Employers rescind offers right up to the start date and employees jump ship. There is no more stigma attached with it.
Until whoever is taking care of him gets fed up (if a relative, that will be a long time).
Not sure why OP posted and asked for help. He's not taking any suggestions seriously and not in any hurry to earn money. May be getting unemployment while playing on the internet.
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What do you base that on? My employer, and every one of our partners and competitors, is all about training. We cannot survive without it.
Now, if you mean, "I should be able to walk in the door with no education, no skills, no experience; and they'll train me up and stick me in a six-figure job", you're right... nobody is willing to do that. Except the military!
Okay, that's your company.
I had basic office skills and I still wasn't good enough for the entry level jobs during the recession.
You never have the job until you actually start. I would recommend never turning anything down if it’s suitable, even if you accept a job and then decline right before you start because the other opportunity came through and you started that one.
This was never my mindset, but there is no more loyalty. Employers rescind offers right up to the start date and employees jump ship. There is no more stigma attached with it.
Yeah but the problem with that is starting jobs then quitting is not good on your resume.... right?
I Know how to fix thing as-well. But the fact of the matter is, if you don't have a certificate/degree in something you're not gonna be first choice. I'm in the process of learning code but even if I become good at it, someone with a degree in web dev. will get hired because they have authentication(degree).
If you can fix things you can always be a handyman. Way too many people can't do the simplest of things around the house. I see people posting on Craig's list and Nextdoor all the time looking for people to fix things or do simple household chores. You could do an easy 1K a week just doing that with no certificates needed.
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