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Your wife has to use her PTO to take time off first, very clear. If she chooses to take more days off unpaid, when she is out of PTO she can discuss it.
You don't get to leave early and not use PTO for a doctor's appointment. Did she tell her boss she would prefer not to get paid? Or are you assuming that isn't an option?
I could totally see people trying to not use their PTO but still take time off from work, so that they end up still getting their long vacations and nickel and diming a bunch of other time away from work, and they end up really working about 100 hours a month to the standard employee's 160 hours so I get why the company would not encourage that.
If she needs to leave early for something like a Doctor's appointment her boss is telling her that she HAS to use her PTO. Should it not be her choice when she wants to use it?
Maybe payroll department doesn't want to process non-standard work weeks. They want it 40 hours total. Any combo of worked hours, pto hours, holiday hours, etc. Those hours need to be accounted for.
Where I worked, people abused "sick days". There was no official "max" of sick days, you just called in sick. Was not deducted from your vacation bucket.
So, to do away with abuse, they renamed "vacation" to PTO and added 5 days. Whenever you needed to be gone, you just took PTO. No need to even state why you were taking it.
If any of staff needed an hour or two away, since we were salaried, we weren't docked PTO for it. Most of us were working 50-60 hour weeks and management didn't want to push their luck.
Wow you guys have never heard of flex time? Our staff does it all the time.
If you are going to a doctor's appointment and need to leave two hours early, depending on where it falls in the workweek, you can stay an extra hour for two days, or come in an hour early for two days, etc.
We have generous leave, but we also understand that people do want to save their leave in case an emergency happens.
Wow you guys have never heard of flex time? Our staff does it all the time.
If you are going to a doctor's appointment and need to leave two hours early, depending on where it falls in the workweek, you can stay an extra hour for two days, or come in an hour early for two days, etc.
We have generous leave, but we also understand that people do want to save their leave in case an emergency happens.
Some companies have flex time. Some companies have Vacation time / Sick Time / etc. Some companies have strictly PTO and usually companies that have just PTO will offer more days to offset vacation/sick time.
For instance. A company might offer 2 weeks vacation and 1 week of sick time a year. Well another company might just offer 15 days of PTO to use as you see fit. If you wanted, you could take 3 weeks of vacation or 2 weeks off if you get the flu.
I prefer the PTO method. Nothing like being sick and having to come into the office because you are out of sick days even though you still have 2 weeks of vacation days on the books.
As for the OP.
One of the reasons they won't let her take unpaid leave is ecause your wife was hired as a full time employee. If she decides to just up and leave for a day and not get paid for it, then she is no longer a full time employee. Most companies that offer PTO, require you to use your PTO for any time not in the office no matter the reason. Once you have exhausted all of your PTO, you 'might' be able to get away with missing work and not getting paid, but I'm sure this is a case by case basis as well as a management decision. This could also lead up to disciplinary actions and possible termination.
If she needs to leave early for something like a Doctor's appointment her boss is telling her that she HAS to use her PTO. Should it not be her choice when she wants to use it?
Wow you guys have never heard of flex time? Our staff does it all the time.
If you are going to a doctor's appointment and need to leave two hours early, depending on where it falls in the workweek, you can stay an extra hour for two days, or come in an hour early for two days, etc.
We have generous leave, but we also understand that people do want to save their leave in case an emergency happens.
This is how it works at my job. Not sure why you don't understand.
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