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Old 12-16-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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^^ She has it right.

If a man's go-to business casual outfit is twill pants with a button down shirt, a woman's go-to business casual outfit is similar. Trousers or twill pants that fit right (just like the men should be wearing) a blouse or button down shirt. In cooler weather/offices, a guy could certainly add a sports jacket or sweater. Likewise, a woman can add a jacket or sweater.

Women do have more options. They can replace the tailored pants with a skirt that actually fits, or wear a proper dress instead of a skirt and blouse.

I think, perhaps, bolder colors and patterns are more casual than more "proper" shades in business attire. Overall, I believe proper fit is the key to looking more professional.


It's not that hard really.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Placerville, CA
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Personally, I do best in a very casual atmosphere. Dress-down Fridays, when I can wear my blue-jeans and walking shoes are when I get the most work done. It's hard to concentrate on work when I'm not comfortable in my own clothes - when I have to worry about snagging my panty hose (yes, if I have to wear a dress, I'm wearing panty hose, too - absolutely, 100% - NO BEAR LEGS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), or when I have to do a balancing act on uncomfortable heels that hurt my feet all day long, and slip off the backs of my heels when I walk because I have really, super small feet. Abso-freaking-lutely ridiculous!! And seriously - what's the point? Is it my job to "look professional" or to get my work done? I'm not a sales person, and I have very little (read almost zero) personal contact with anyone outside of my office on a normal work day. In my opinion, dress codes are for retail outlets, medical and dental offices, and the like - not manufacturing facilities. Get a clue, HR!!
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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Default Sorry. Low hanging fruit. Bear Legs!?

Enuf said.

Or you could work in an office where ladies wear clothes that you would be ashamed to paint in and all-season flip-flops.
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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Personally, I do best in a very casual atmosphere. Dress-down Fridays, when I can wear my blue-jeans and walking shoes are when I get the most work done. It's hard to concentrate on work when I'm not comfortable in my own clothes - when I have to worry about snagging my panty hose (yes, if I have to wear a dress, I'm wearing panty hose, too - absolutely, 100% - NO BEAR LEGS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), or when I have to do a balancing act on uncomfortable heels that hurt my feet all day long, and slip off the backs of my heels when I walk because I have really, super small feet. Abso-freaking-lutely ridiculous!! And seriously - what's the point? Is it my job to "look professional" or to get my work done? I'm not a sales person, and I have very little (read almost zero) personal contact with anyone outside of my office on a normal work day. In my opinion, dress codes are for retail outlets, medical and dental offices, and the like - not manufacturing facilities. Get a clue, HR!!
Have you tried comfort dress shoes from somewhere like Clarks? or searching on Nordstrom? That's where I find most of my shoes, and I am a size 5.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:20 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I enjoy when females dress nicely in the office! I usually work from home and this might encourage me to come to the office more often!
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Personally, I do best in a very casual atmosphere. Dress-down Fridays, when I can wear my blue-jeans and walking shoes are when I get the most work done. It's hard to concentrate on work when I'm not comfortable in my own clothes - when I have to worry about snagging my panty hose (yes, if I have to wear a dress, I'm wearing panty hose, too - absolutely, 100% - NO BEAR LEGS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), Get a clue, HR!!
Bear legs...

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Old 12-17-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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bear legs...
lmao!!!!!!!
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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tried wearing a kilt? then point to someone wearing a skirt and ask what's different?
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: London
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I notice this. I thank my lucky stars I work with creatives, because I don't have to restrict myself to formal wear. Sometimes I do have to go to a conference though, which means shopping hell.

And yes, clothing for professional women seems to prioritize displaying 'assets' rather than allowing the woman to be polished and comfortable so she can actually BE one.

IMO it's just another reflection of the notion that women are primarily decorations, not actual contributors.

I don't care. I refuse to dress like a hoochy mama in situations where I actually want to be seen as competent. It's enough being tall, skinny and blonde. I don't need to help people judge me more.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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I go to LOFT for business casual for women that doesn't give a "strumpet" vibe but is still more youthful. There really isn't an excuse that you can't find appropriate clothing... there are tons of classy clothes available for women if they look. But, I don't really care if other women show cleavage or wear a short skirt. That's between them and the employer.

The other day there were some pedestrians crossing the street in front of my car. They looked like college students attending a class trip. One young woman was in fishnet-like stockings, an extremely short leather skirt, pumps, a jacket and blouse, and red lipstick. A young guy was following behind her, in his baggy jeans and white t-shirt and baseball cap, trying to "flirt" with her by throwing a cup of water on her and giving her lascivious stares. None of the other females were dressed like her or treated like that while crossing the street.

I'm just tired of guys (and some women) thinking that the way a woman dresses is a reason to disrespect her, no matter the environment.
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