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Old 09-01-2013, 07:28 AM
 
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The program ( The Men Who Built America ) will be on Direct TV channel 271
Monday 9/2/13 at 8:00 am est with about 4 ... 2 hour programs which
shows how people who were poor, became the richest people In America and the world.

There are ideas that can be learned from these programs, ... a must watch ! ! !
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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When contemplating the offshoring vulture capitalists and Peter Thiel type tech libertarians of today, I get a bit nostalgic for the Carnegies, Rockefellers, Fricks and Harrimans of yore. For all their faults, those men actually made real things in this country and, for all the talk of Social Darwinism and "survival of the fittest" that prevailed then, they were strongly grounded in Protestant morality and a patriarchal sense of responsibility to their communities.

On the other hand, if they'd had containerized shipping, computers and satellite telecoms, maybe they'd have been just as bad as our modern captains of industry.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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What you should be nostalgic for is the working class that forced these greedy plutocrats to pay a living wage for their labor.
Needs to happen again today to restore the middle class.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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What you should be nostalgic for is the working class that forced these greedy plutocrats to pay a living wage for their labor.
Needs to happen again today to restore the middle class.
Preachin' to the choir, homie.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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What you should be nostalgic for is the working class that forced these greedy plutocrats to pay a living wage for their labor.
Needs to happen again today to restore the middle class.
There would have been no jobs without these men.

These men and their character, investment and ruthlessness lit, moved and financed the earths progress.

The "workers" were the small cogs in the wheels of progress and could be easily replaced.

That is the truth.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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What you should be nostalgic for is the working class that forced these greedy plutocrats to pay a living wage for their labor.
They were not greedy ...
they knew how to do business and profit of which you enjoy life better today.
They shared there wealth.


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Needs to happen again today to restore the middle class.
It is happening and there is still a middle class today.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Preachin' to the choir, homie.
There is not difference between the choir,
and those in the pew, including the preacher ! ! !
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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They were not greedy ...
they knew how to do business and profit of which you enjoy life better today.
They shared there wealth.




It is happening and there is still a middle class today.
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Even Karl Marx had respect approaching awe for the men who built the Industrial Revolution, but let's don't get too carried away here. They were forced into sharing their wealth--to the extent that they shared it. The more foresighted of them, such as Carnegie, addressed the problem of inequality as a means to head off revolution and open class war which, he feared, might result in nationalization of industry.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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People who watch these movies will learn
many helpfull things about business.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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This mini series was cool to watch. I think it was a propaganda piece to show on the History Channel during the Obama 2012 elections, comparing Romney to the Presidential candidate McKinley, whom the men of industry wanted to win. The focus was more on the money they made, and less on the men themselves.
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