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Old 07-29-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The only jobs available for a millennial with a high school diploma is low wage retail/fast food. You can't get a union factory job anymore. College/trade school is the only option.
And those are also the only jobs for MANY people. Boomers who need it to augment income, college grads who don't have relevant enough experience and the high school diploma workforce.

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The employment section in the philadelphia inquirer is still pretty big on Sundays
That could be an exception to the rule though. I have the Arizona Republic's job posting from the Sunday paper this week and it is roughly 3/3&1/2 pages due to ads and articles taking up other space on the page.

So yes, on this one Parried is right. He hit the nail right on the head this time.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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While some of the things he says are common-sense strategies like dressing nice, some of his "advice" is outdated and out of touch with the realities of the current job market..

A lot of employers out there DON'T want to be bothered by people who call in, or especially come in person. Hiring managers and HR personnel are busy people, and imagine if everybody called in to simply "follow up" on a resume they submitted. Hiring managers want the BEST people for the job, not the most aggressive or the pushiest candidates. If you really want to follow up, email the hiring manager or recruiter ONCE, and after that let it be. After you submit your application, the ball is in the employer's court, whether you like it or not.

Oh, and good luck trying to meet the hiring manager in person if you're looking for anything other than a retail or food service gig. The receptionist will probably laugh as soon as you leave the building.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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While some of the things he says are common-sense strategies like dressing nice, some of his "advice" is outdated and out of touch with the realities of the current job market..

A lot of employers out there DON'T want to be bothered by people who call in, or especially come in person. Hiring managers and HR personnel are busy people, and imagine if everybody called in to simply "follow up" on a resume they submitted. Hiring managers want the BEST people for the job, not the most aggressive or the pushiest candidates. If you really want to follow up, email the hiring manager or recruiter ONCE, and after that let it be. After you submit your application, the ball is in the employer's court, whether you like it or not.

Oh, and good luck trying to meet the hiring manager in person if you're looking for anything other than a retail or food service gig. The receptionist will probably laugh as soon as you leave the building.
There is no greater impediment to getting the best people into the correct positions than our HR departments.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:01 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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And those are also the only jobs for MANY people. Boomers who need it to augment income, college grads who don't have relevant enough experience and the high school diploma workforce.



That could be an exception to the rule though. I have the Arizona Republic's job posting from the Sunday paper this week and it is roughly 3/3&1/2 pages due to ads and articles taking up other space on the page.

So yes, on this one Parried is right. He hit the nail right on the head this time.


well in philly it's 3 pages of job listings
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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well in philly it's 3 pages of job listings
If 3 pages is "big," I want to see how huge a large job listing would be...
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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well in philly it's 3 pages of job listings
How many pay a living wage?

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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How many pay a living wage?
How many are commissioned based?
How many are for construction work? (I know this is a boom job for Arizona.)
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Actually, this kid needs to get with reality. It's encourage by employers that you don't reach out to them. And as mentioned earlier, HR is going to come up with every excuse in the book to keep you from speaking with management. I work in a place where young people come in looking for work, only to be turned away by HR.

Back in the day, you could walk into places of business and be hired on the spot. Not so much these days. It's annoying to hear the older generation speak on the younger generation as if they're nothing but lazy bums with entitlement issues. Times have changed.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:07 PM
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How many pay a living wage?

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Too many to count
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