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Old 05-08-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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North America is thousands of times colder than South America, but the cold snaps here in Southern Hemisphere is frequent in summer, it is everything I want to say.



I'm studying the climate and vegetation of Southern Hemisphere for years and what I mean is, Balmaceda has the highest potential to get very cold days between any other town in Southern Hemisphere, and it is not because it is from South America..
And you are right, isnt every year that it get thoses very cold temperatures(below -20C), but at least 3 or 4 times each decade, look that, say me another low elevated place(outside Antarctic) like that and I give up.
I would say that being in South America is the reason. It's a much bigger landmass than New Zealand, and extends a lot further south than NZ or Australia, so it makes sense to have the greatest cold potential.
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Can somebody tell me what the hell is the difference between a tundra climate and a subpolar oceanic climate? Please provide places examples of these two (really similar) climate zones?

According to Wiki, this is tundra:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands#Climate

And this is subpolar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unalaska,_Alaska#Climate

What's the big difference?
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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Can somebody tell me what the hell is the difference between a tundra climate and a subpolar oceanic climate? Please provide places examples of these two (really similar) climate zones?

According to Wiki, this is tundra:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands#Climate

And this is subpolar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unalaska,_Alaska#Climate

What's the big difference?
Subpolar oceanic climates have a warm season (at least one month and max 3 months with mean 10C or warmer) just warm enough to grow trees and have forest. And, to be oceanic, the winters must be relatively mild (mean warmer than -3C in coldest month).
Tundra areas can have very cold winters, but some tundra areas like Kerguelen are mild in winter. They have "summers" with warmest month mean colder than 10C.

In nature areas with trees are much more diverse biologically than tundra.

Subpolar oceanic area in Lofoten:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestv%..._September.JPG
Some agriculture:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestv%...le:Unnstad.JPG

Also, see my photos from the town of Harstad in this forum:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/44721083-post320.html

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Old 05-10-2017, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Subpolar oceanic climates have a warm season (at least one month and max 3 months with mean 10C or warmer) just warm enough to grow trees and have forest. And, to be oceanic, the winters must be relatively mild (mean warmer than -3C in coldest month).
Tundra areas can have very cold winters, but some tundra areas like Kerguelen are mild in winter. They have "summers" with warmest month mean colder than 10C.

In nature areas with trees are much more diverse biologically than tundra.

Subpolar oceanic area in Lofoten:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestv%..._September.JPG
Some agriculture:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestv%...le:Unnstad.JPG

Also, see my photos from the town of Harstad in this forum:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/44721083-post320.html
I see. Thanks.
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Old 05-11-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Paris
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People who are from Europe, how was the winter there in 1929?
February 1929 was cold all over Europe. In Paris January averaged 0.1°C and February -1.2°C.

Clermont-Ferrand (central France) recorded its coldest low that month, at -29°C, which is one of the coldest lowland readings for France. The nearby town of Gelles, which is somewhat elevated (700 m asl), dipped down to -35°C. We're talking about values ~30°C below normal.

Lyon reached -22.5°C and had 3 consecutive highs below -10°C.

Nancy (NE France) averaged -0.1/-9.8°C that month.



Here's Clermont-Ferrand's month. First column in the low, second the high, third the mean. The 3 columns to the right are the respective departures.


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Old 05-11-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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February 1929 was cold all over Europe. In Paris January averaged 0.1°C and February -1.2°C.

Clermont-Ferrand (central France) recorded its coldest low that month, at -29°C, which is one of the coldest lowland readings for France. The nearby town of Gelles, which is somewhat elevated (700 m asl), dipped down to -35°C. We're talking about values ~30°C below normal.

Lyon reached -22.5°C and had 3 consecutive highs below -10°C.

Nancy (NE France) averaged -0.1/-9.8°C that month.



Here's Clermont-Ferrand's month. First column in the low, second the high, third the mean. The 3 columns to the right are the respective departures.

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Old 05-12-2017, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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What cities have the most contrasting sunshine hours between summer and winter (or sunniest and cloudiest month)?

This comes close close or as a good example, but I'm sure there are extreme ones out there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerevan#Climate
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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What cities have the most contrasting sunshine hours between summer and winter (or sunniest and cloudiest month)?

This comes close close or as a good example, but I'm sure there are extreme ones out there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerevan#Climate
You're calling 92 sun hours in the cloudiest month really cloudy?

This would be best expressed as a ratio of %sun in the sunniest month to %sun in the cloudiest month to allow for differing amounts of daylight. I'm not working all that out, but I suspect Rostov-on-Don comes close, 314 hours in July and 38 in December at a relatively modest 47N:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov-on-Don#Climate

St Petersburg is horrifically cloudy in winter - barely 50 hours with all three dullest months put together - but the summers are nothing that special by contrast considering it's at 60N (June 276, December 12):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg#Climate
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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What cities have the most contrasting sunshine hours between summer and winter (or sunniest and cloudiest month)?

This comes close close or as a good example, but I'm sure there are extreme ones out there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerevan#Climate
Today, izmit had a high of 33.4℃.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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Haven't we spun that wheel before I seem to remember?

My guess is probably somewhere in the PNW with those insanely wet winters even in supposed rain shadows but I'm not sure. I'm not a particular sunshine expert, perhaps I should work on it a bit more
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