General Chat Thread 2 (Chicago, season, live, Atlanta)
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They are huge threats none the else but you are saying Muslims commit the MOST attacks you can't make a statement like that without stats. You can assume all you want but assumptions don't equal fact so it very well may be wrong.
What stats do you want? The facts are there in the news every single day, Islamic extremists murdering people, blowing people up. You can deny it all you like, but it is true.
What stats do you want? The facts are there in the news every single day, Islamic extremists murdering people, blowing people up. You can deny it all you like, but it is true.
I'm not denying, what about today's attack was it a terrorist attack? The many mass shootings we had? All save a couple done by non Muslims but none labeled as a terrorist attack except for the ones done by Muslims. What's the difference between the Orlando shooting and Sandy hook? Columbine? Nothing, except 2 are known as mass shooting the Orlando one is known as a terrorist attack.
I'm not denying, what about today's attack was it a terrorist attack? The many mass shootings we had? All save a couple done by non Muslims but none labeled as a terrorist attack except for the ones done by Muslims. What's the difference between the Orlando shooting and Sandy hook? Columbine? Nothing, except 2 are known as mass shooting the Orlando one is known as a terrorist attack.
There is a difference between a terrorist attack & a nutjob going beserk with a gun. Terrorists have a bigger, wider cause & are part of a network/group that plans specific targets. The nutjob with the gun could just be ill or have a grudge against some people. Islamic terrorists seem to have a grudge with anyone & everything. They even kill other Muslims, so not quite sure what their ultimate agenda is, I doubt even they know...
There is a difference between a terrorist attack & a nutjob going beserk with a gun. Terrorists have a bigger, wider cause & are part of a network/group that plans specific targets. The nutjob with the gun could just be ill or have a grudge against some people. Islamic terrorists seem to have a grudge with anyone & everything.
I think the Orlando terrorist was both. He said he was connected to ISIS, but really at most inspired; don't think there's been evidence of communication.
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They even kill other Muslims, so not quite sure what their ultimate agenda is, I doubt even they know...
Heretics are worse than non-believers to a fundamentalist.
What about knives, baseball bats, forks, metal cans that can be turned to shanks. If we are going to ban all weapons why just guns. What would happen if we disarm the population? Criminals will still find a way to get there hands on guns. Then what happens when you are robbed by an armed criminal and you are unarmed? What happens if God forbid the population is unarmed but the police are militarized and we have a tyrannical government? What about banning forks and spoons, they cause diabetes. People use them to eat foods that get them obese and give them diabetes.
Part of the issue is that the police in this country are pretty much militarized. Police departments are more likely to hire individuals with military experience which is asinine. A typical American suburb is not the same as a war zone (though this country is certainly headed down that path). The psychological evaluations and education required to become a police officer are a joke. We may not always be able to weed out all the bad apples, but the way police departments operate with regards to training, education, hiring, etc. needs to be overhauled.
I think the Orlando terrorist was both. He said he was connected to ISIS, but really at most inspired; don't think there's been evidence of communication.
Heretics are worse than non-believers to a fundamentalist.
Yeah I think the Orlando shooters reasons were mixed, a lone wolf as no direct "orders" to carry out the act, but believing in the cause... Though it seems he was pretty messed up mentally anyway.
True. And this is what is scary as many more Muslims will be lead to their way of thinking. Though I still don't know what their ultimate goal or aim is, as they can't honestly believe they can either kill all non Muslims or make everyone convert
What about knives, baseball bats, forks, metal cans that can be turned to shanks. If we are going to ban all weapons why just guns. What would happen if we disarm the population? Criminals will still find a way to get there hands on guns. Then what happens when you are robbed by an armed criminal and you are unarmed? What happens if God forbid the population is unarmed but the police are militarized and we have a tyrannical government? What about banning forks and spoons, they cause diabetes. People use them to eat foods that get them obese and give them diabetes.
Yes, criminals will get their hands on guns. There is no legislation which can ever stop that. If I'm robbed by an armed criminal, ok. I'll hand him my money. That's how muggings go usually. If I would be armed too and I shoot the criminal, I get charged with murder. €20 and my cell phone isn't worth that.
The second scenario is ridiculous. What established democracy with an unarmed populace have ever suffered a tyrannical coup? None. UK, Germany, France, New Zealand, Canada, Sweden? None. It's just not gonna happen. And what if it would? We give AR's to you and snj90, what are you gonna do with them? You wouldn't stand a chance against Dean York and me, so how could you have any chance against a militarised police force?
Guerrilla warfare is one of the problems associated with hostile takeovers, for an occupying force. Frankly, every country that russia threatens should have both a trained and armed populace.
The kremlin learned this after the soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
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