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View Poll Results: What do you think is the cause of recent global warming?
I think It's mostly man-made. 56 31.11%
I think It's mostly natural. 66 36.67%
I'm not sure. 11 6.11%
I think it's an equal combination of man and natural influences. 47 26.11%
Voters: 180. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-14-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7K3nuJqzeY

 
Old 08-14-2015, 07:10 PM
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Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by nei View Post
Why do you repeat the "ice age scarce"? I've shown evidence it didn't exist.
It's quite impossible for you to have done any such thing.
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However, it is projected that man's potential to pollute will increase 6 to 8-fold in the next 50 years. If this increased rate of injection... should raise the present background opacity by a factor of 4, our calculations suggest a decrease in global temperature by as much as 3.5 °C. Such a large decrease in the average temperature of Earth, sustained over a period of few years, is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age. However, by that time, nuclear power may have largely replaced fossil fuels as a means of energy production
Science Magazine
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Effects on the global temperature of large increases in carbon dioxide and aerosol densities in the atmosphere of Earth have been computed. It is found that, although the addition of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does increase the surface temperature, the rate of temperature increase diminishes with increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. For aerosols, however, the net effect of increase in density is to reduce the surface temperature of Earth. Because of the exponential dependence of the backscattering, the rate of temperature decrease is augmented with increasing aerosol content. An increase by only a factor of 4 in global aerosol background concentration may be sufficient to reduce the surface temperature by as much as 3.5 degrees K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease over the whole globe is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age.
Atmospheric carbon dioxide and aerosols: Effects of large increases on global climate

And that was just one part of it. Long before that there was another theory that predicted a glacier building period, due to warming.
 
Old 08-14-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Cherry picking again.

Sun activity has nothing for present day global warming. Even if we would reach 1650-1750 levels, that would change hardly anything
No, showing how it was cooling during the scare in the past. Jumpy are we? And apparently it seems like your knowledgeable about all this but dont know why Poland is in a drought or that they had droughts in the past without global warming or how the sun is involved.. Keep trying...or should I say keep worrying?
 
Old 08-14-2015, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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So according to dexter2 Poland drought is because of Global Warming (sounds so Ludacris to say), then the Great Lakes 2nd highest ice amount last yr was because of it to.
And the lowest ice coverage in 2002 was because of it too. Lmao.




Great Lakes Ice Cover - NOAA Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (GLERL)
 
Old 08-14-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Oh look.. dexter2 says the drought in Poland is because of global warming.. guess the U.S drought in 1934 was because of Global warming back then too. And in 1939 as well.

If you want to talk about weather and climate and why things happen, I will, but continued ludacris statements like that only can only go so far.

 
Old 08-14-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Łódź, Poland
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Read once again this post: https://www.city-data.com/forum/40823755-post181.html
Because I will not repeat myself.

Tho I doubt you will understand, as you didn't at the first time.


Btw - http://i.imgur.com/ktLerHu.jpg
3/5 most severe draughts happened in last 40 years. But other then that this graph shows us nothing, as there is hard to see any clear trend from that form of data presentation.

http://i.imgur.com/FL8Rycn.jpg
Too short peroid of time to be able to draw any conclusions, but if you make me do it, then ok:
From 1998 to 2015 MIC is 13/18 times BELOW the average. Before that only 8/25.
Conclusions are clear.
 
Old 08-14-2015, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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lol, let me introduce you to the 'big picture':



Cherry picking again. One, small peroid of time that suits your thesis.
Pot meet kettle. The only way your graph works is if you intentionally distort the data by stopped 15 years ago. Why not show the past decade and a half in your data?

Here's what the NOAA data shows:

 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Łódź, Poland
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^^ Those descriptions are exactly not what is happening there. If you are getting sick, but after taking morning dump feel better for 10 minutes, does this mean you are not sick anymore?
But what do we can expect from someone that mistakes weather for climate...

Btw - where did you take data for that arrow descriptions? Sources please.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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We're entering Maunder Minimum 2.0 because North America had a cold winter in 2015 while most of the rest of the world was warm or very warm.
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