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Old 09-27-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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You are correct. What a joke of a classification system when it comes to climate....
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Warm temperate, moist forest here. Humid, I think.

And I understand why some want to kick DC/NYC/etc. out of "subtropical" (), but Orlando?
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They want to put is into the same zone as Palm Beach, Florida though according to the USA Holdridge map I posted above. They grow commercially tomatoes and other vegetables in Central Florida during the winter, but we are in the same climate system.
true but koppen already does that. putting Philadelphia and Washington in the same zone as SW F. I think middle ground could be made by making another category called semi-tropical that uses the current definition of sub tropical but raises the bio temp requirement to 18c. then sub tropical could be liberated from the frost requirement while needing a bio temp of 18c. Then finally warm temperate would just be a biotemp of 12-18c regardless of frost. beside that I think the system is accurate.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:29 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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I greatly prefer Koppen. This system is confusing and puts climates in too broad of ranges. Koppen is perfect.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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Boreal wet forest looks about right.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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According to Holdridge, Rimini, Italy has a warm temperate climate and lies in a semi-arid and dry forest zone.
I think it's a good definition.
According to Koppen, it's humid subtropical.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:52 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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London lies at the boundary of dry forest and moist forest. The natural habitat outside of London is a mix of pine forest, oak/beech forest, and heathland.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Finland
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How the fu** do you calculate the chart?
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Hold on a minute, I'm not convinced the map posted by tom77falcons is the end of the story. There are other maps out there that have a different interpretation like this one:



Here there's clearly a gradation with the US North East and mid-Atlantic and South East all in different zones.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Koppen is perfect.
Wrong.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Kharkiv is on steppe/moist forest borderline, right? According to life zone classification system which is used in former USSR, Kharkiv is on steppe/forest steppe borderline.
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