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View Poll Results: If the temperature outside is over 80°F/27°C, what dew point range do you prefer?
0-20°F 38 11.21%
20-30°F 25 7.37%
30-40°F 44 12.98%
40-50°F 87 25.66%
50-60°F 65 19.17%
60°F-70°F 45 13.27%
70°F+ 35 10.32%
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:21 PM
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I would vote 70°F+

Current temp and dew is 30°c/24°c, respectively
Added a vote for 70°F, subtracted one for 60-70°F. I'll change the vote for anyone else who wants to switch.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Added a vote for 70°F, subtracted one for 60-70°F. I'll change the vote for anyone else who wants to switch.
Actually... Can you change it to say..

"If the temperature outside is over 85°F/30°C, what dew point range do you prefer?"

That's more interesting because people see 80F and think thats not hot enough. In fact, I think people voting for dewpoints in the 60s arent thinking about the temps in the 90s which is what I wanted to imply. I dont see how people would like heat indexes in the 100s/110sF.

Whats done is done though. Sorry if the poll isnt clear cut. Wish we can delete it and start a new one.

The Poll Implies outside Temps in the 90s and 100s too. (over 32C/37C)
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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Does anyone have more info on record dew points? This is all I can find so far: Record Dew Point Temperatures | Wunderground
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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Accuweather had an article on record dew points in 2010

Dew Points Near Record Levels in Midwest - The WeatherMatrix Blog Weather Blog

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Old 07-10-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Canada's possible record: "It was downright oppressive in Carman, Manitoba. On July 25 at 3:00 p.m. CDT, Carman registered the day's maximum temperature at a sizzling 34°C with a dew point of 30° - literally jungle humidities. (It is unconfirmed, but the 30° dew point might be a new record high in Canada.)"

Archived - Environment Canada - Weather and Meteorology - Canada's Top Ten Weather Stories for 2007

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Accuweather had an article on record dew points in 2010

Dew Points Near Record Levels in Midwest - The WeatherMatrix Blog Weather Blog
Interesting, thanks
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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I had a Dewpoint spike to 80.1°F/27°C here

It made an alert go off that its the highest dewpoint since using my weather station software in 2011.

Is it safe to come out now?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:04 PM
 
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Actually... Can you change it to say..

"If the temperature outside is over 85°F/30°C, what dew point range do you prefer?"

That's more interesting because people see 80F and think thats not hot enough. In fact, I think people voting for dewpoints in the 60s arent thinking about the temps in the 90s which is what I wanted to imply. I dont see how people would like heat indexes in the 100s/110sF.

Whats done is done though. Sorry if the poll isnt clear cut. Wish we can delete it and start a new one.

The Poll Implies outside Temps in the 90s and 100s too. (over 32C/37C)
For temperatures like that I'd generally like a nice low dew point, probably in the 30-40 and 40-50 ranges. That being said, I would like a handful of days each summer with temperatures in the 80s or low 90s with dew points in the 70s just for some variety and a taste of tropical summer weather. I wouldn't want that everyday, though, and if the temperature was going to be much above 90 I would generally prefer low dew points, especially if those temperatures were going to be regular occurrences.

But whenever the temperature is moderate (below the mid-80s) I think I would generally prefer moderate dew points as well, say 40 to 60. That would probably be my preferred summer weather - temperatures in the 70s with humidity in that "sweet spot" that feels neither particularly humid nor particularly dry most days, but going to one end of the spectrum or the other once in a while.

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Canada's possible record: "It was downright oppressive in Carman, Manitoba. On July 25 at 3:00 p.m. CDT, Carman registered the day's maximum temperature at a sizzling 34°C with a dew point of 30° - literally jungle humidities. (It is unconfirmed, but the 30° dew point might be a new record high in Canada.)"
Yes, officially this is considered Canada's record, however that 30 degree dew point has had me doubting its validity since I first heard about it. Manitoba does get fairly humid in the summer, but 30 degrees is literally Persian Gulf levels of humidity; it seems fairly unlikely to me that it could get that high, even just for a few hours, in the middle of the prairies. But I haven't seen any evidence to contradict it yet, so who knows. It'd be great if anyone had more info on that, as I haven't found much myself.

What would cause humidity to get that high in the middle of a plain?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:27 PM
 
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The high dewpoints must be making it hard to open and close wooden doors and windows properly?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:33 PM
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dew point at 77°F
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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High dewpoints have been recorded in Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Iowa, and other states to the south of Manitoba, so the reading isn't completely unprecedented. Crops seem to have an impact.

There was a 90F/32C dewpoint reading in Appleton, WI (44.3N, 88.4W) on July 13, 1995
And 88F/31C readings at:
Moorhead, MN (next to Fargo ND, 46.9N 96.8W) on July 19, 2011 (Fargo hit 83F/28.3C)
Newton, IA (41.7N, 93.0W) on July 14, 2010

There is an article speculating the Moorhead reading was due to the surrounding crops and morning rain leaving standing water near the station.
Weather Extremes : Record Dew Point Temperatures | Weather Underground/

Are there crops around the recording site? They might have an impact, this study seems to suggest that high vegetation near the recording site can cause odd dewpoint readings.
NWS Central Region Applied Research Papers Vol. 18 No. 5

It's still extremely high, but not unimaginable.
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