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Old 10-13-2012, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Someone explain this that is happening right now.

At 12pm 82 degrees in Morgantown West Virgina. No 80s or 70s nearby.

Last update shows 85 degrees and a real feel of 89.



Here's the link.. http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KMGW.html
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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This is NOT the first time and thats why I started a thread for it. This is messing with the averages and normals big time in that area!
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Mistakes and glitches do happen.. I've seen multiple stations here that have gone crazy and have 'recorded' ridiculous temperatures. Many stations also record dew points of -79C.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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Mistakes and glitches do happen.. I've seen multiple stations here that have gone crazy and have 'recorded' ridiculous temperatures. Many stations also record dew points of -79C.
Yes but Something like that gets corrected (it better)... something like I posted is not a temporary spike... these temps will make it into the data and increase the averages for the day and month.

A 20 degree spike is different from -79C. Think about it... the entire month will stay above normal because of this most likely and nobody looks back at every single day of temps..... they just look at the monthly averages.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I will be fileing this report here.http://surfacestations.org/

I urge all of you to do the same if you see a spike.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Very interesting, I can't explain that one. There was a 24C/76F 4 am temp here here in mid Oct ( the 14th in fact - sounds like an excuse for a party) a few years ago. It was a very localized event that didn't even make the news 50 km away ( apart from the estimated 1 million + trees knocked over). The cause was Foehn wind following several days of warm weather (also Foehn related ) on the east coast.

Several people around here have told me they saw it reach 27C/80F in town at the same time, and I am inclined to believe them. From memory, the temp was 28C/82F at about 8.00 am.

Coincidentally, a friend of a friend from the States (Boston ) was staying at the time. He said he didn't know NZ got this sort of heat. I had to reply that I didn't either.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Paris
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It reminds me of a sudden temperature rise that occured here in the same season (last April) and reached 24°C too around midnight. Every weather station in a 50 km radius has recorded a rise, though some more than others.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6924/201204291.gif
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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It reminds me of a sudden temperature rise that occured here in the same season (last April) and reached 24°C too around midnight. Every weather station in a 50 km radius has recorded a rise, though some more than others.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6924/201204291.gif
Rozenn, thats a perfect example. Notice it dropped back down to "reality" after a few hours.

This is really concerning the more I research it. I won't even go into how this plays a role in the "warming" debate.. I'm sure we all dont look at charts and data for every station out there every single day. So we're missing a ton of these spikes.

If anyone finds a spike down also, please post here.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Last update shows 85 degrees and a real feel of 89.



Here's the link.. National Weather Service : Observed Weather for past 3 Days : Morgantown Municipal-Hart Field
Sorry guys... nobody corrected me on this... Thats not a real feel.... That 89 degrees was the day high. . That high goes into a network of temperature data for the area, country and globe..
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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It is important to note....that no temperature data is official, regardless of source (i.e. coooperative station, awos/asos faa station, etc) until data is published by the NCDC. The NCDC will smooth over any possible errors and correct them to fit a smooth curve. So it is very unlikely that hot temp in Morgantown willl survive in the history books.

We have even seen minor temp changes occur from what occurred versus what was published locally. If the Grand Forks airport had a low of say 3 and the NWS cooperative site had a low of 15 (in town reading)...the end result of what is published in the final records would have the airport at 7 and our office at 11. Smoothing the curve and smoothing out differences...happens all the time.

Dan
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