Better Places to Live than Vancouver? (island, county, climate)
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Definitely French cities such as Paris, Lyon, Toulouse, Cannes, and Nice. I think San Frans, LA, and NYC are pretty good too. I also like Vienna, Austria. I really hate Vancouver though. I don't like any Canadian cities. Canada sucks all the time!
Here's how I see it after living here 6 mos.
Pros:
-beautiful places to hike nearby, including Stanley Park
-overall beautiful city; lots of new buildings and pretty good urban planning
-pretty viable transportation system with nice bus drivers
-gorgeous summer weather
-prevalent interest in 'green living'
-cherry blossoms, lots of greenery throughout the city
-pretty clean city streets. doesn't smell like **** all over like in SF
-feels safer than parts of LA and the Bay Area, even in the DTES.
Cons:
-museums are very expensive compared to ones in LA, SF and NY, plus the art is much lamer in comparison...i.e. $20 admission to Vancouver Art Gallery, $15ish to Museum of Anthropology. Crappy art scene in general.
-things more expensive here than the US, like $7.50 Ben & Jerry's pints (as opposed to $4.50), $20 tubes of sunscreen
-pricey transportation; $2.50 each way
-hard to find cheap, attractive rental housing. overpriced. many of the rentals available are basement suites eliciting claustrophobia
-the DTES; a big part of the city to avoid. I see prostitutes every day during my daily commute.
-rains so much of the year; can't enjoy the hiking and other outdoor opportunities as much
-not really 'diverse'. Pretty much tons of Chinese and other East Asian people, some whites, and a handful of Indians.
-homeless problem
This is the best city I've lived in so far, but it's not perfect. Do you guys think there are better cities to live?
Answering to your question, obviously from my point of view.
Better city to live in Canada?? No, not really, Van is pretty much the best especially if you are cold weather sensitive....As someone says, Victoria is for the "newly wed and the nearly dead"...
Outside of Canada?? Lot of places way better than Van even if only restricted to the USA.
Definitely French cities such as Paris, Lyon, Toulouse, Cannes, and Nice. I think San Frans, LA, and NYC are pretty good too. I also like Vienna, Austria. I really hate Vancouver though. I don't like any Canadian cities. Canada sucks all the time!
Then why bother coming to the Canada forum, then search out the Vancouver thread, create a new user account, just to categorically trash Vancouver and all of Canada? Some people really need better things to do in their lives...
However, Vancouver is more comparable to American cities than to Australian and European cities. Australian cities offer much higher paying jobs, while Vancouver is expensive and low paid.
If by "parts of Europe" you mean London and Paris and similar cities, your arguments simply don't stand because those cities offer way more than Vancouver's mountain and ocean backdrop does. It is like saying the advantage of living in Omaha is it being more affordable than New York City.
Keep in mind Vancouver is not a city for 20 or 30 something young people to work hard and get a good middle class life. The cost of living in this city by far exceeds the income level the city is able to provide to local people, and advantage of living by the mountain and ocean honestly is by means a unique thing in North America or any continent.
Vancouver, in the end offers similar stuff as Portland, OR or Seattle, WA, or Denver, CO, yet charges a price premium close to New York City.
No one is comparing Vancouver to Paris or New York.
From my previous visits to Vancouver (parents also live and work in Vancouver), the only outstanding item that is outrageously expensive is real estate. Rent is cheap compared to American cities, and daily necessities in Vancouver are comparable to prices in Toronto, Montreal, and other Canadian cities.
Also, transit fares in Vancouver are actually right on par with those charged in the UK and continental Europe. In Berlin, the average 2-zone transit fare starts at 2.70 eur, or $3.57 cad. Translink charges $4 cad for a similar 2-zone fare that is eligible on all modes of transit throughout greater Vancouver. I find it a bit odd that people always expect superior transit while complaining about a $2-4 dollar fare.
Definitely French cities such as Paris, Lyon, Toulouse, Cannes, and Nice. I think San Frans, LA, and NYC are pretty good too. I also like Vienna, Austria. I really hate Vancouver though. I don't like any Canadian cities. Canada sucks all the time!
Better tell all your friends in France to stop listening to all the great music coming out of Montreal...because you know...Canada sucks all the time!
In Canada, besides Vancouver , Victoria, the Oysoos and southern Ontario have temperate climates. If I were to move to CND, I'd elect one of these places.
In Canada, besides Vancouver , Victoria, the Oysoos and southern Ontario have temperate climates. If I were to move to CND, I'd elect one of these places.
When I think of a temperate climate I think of most of France except for the Mediterranean region.
Southern Ontario isn't really temperate in this way. It generally has winters similar to Oslo-Helsinki, but its summers are more similar to southern France and northern Italy.
In Canada, besides Vancouver , Victoria, the Oysoos and southern Ontario have temperate climates. If I were to move to CND, I'd elect one of these places.
Southern Ontario doesn't have "temperate climate". I don't know how you get this idea. Only a Canadian who lives his entire life in Canada will come up with this sort of conclusion.
Pretty much the entire Europe except Russia is more temperate than southern Ontario, and that includes Nordic countries. 95% of entire Asia with billions of people live in warmer climate zone than southern Ontario (admittedly, some areas are too hot in the summer, not really temperate per se). The entire continent of Africa, Oceania and South America are more temperate than southern Ontario. Also 95% of North American population live in area more temperate than southern Ontario.
Even Reykjavik, Iceland at N 64° has a much warmer January than Windsor, Ontario (N 41°).
Southern Ontario doesn't have "temperate climate". I don't know how you get this idea. Only a Canadian who lives his entire life in Canada will come up with this sort of conclusion.
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Nobody from Southern Ontario/Canada even said that we have a temperate climate. It was someone who said if they moved to Canada as in the guy "Pigeonhole" - so it was nobody from here who said that.. This is how rumours start lol.. Oh those silly Canadians think that Southern Ontario is temperate pfft even though it wasn't even us..
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