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Old 02-27-2014, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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They are advertising it NOW on TCM!
No they aren't, a movie is on right now, but yes they did air a number of interviews. No the whole show or anything, but I still enjoyed it. You will see them on between movies and will have to check the online schedule to see when one is on.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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No they aren't, a movie is on right now, but yes they did air a number of interviews. No the whole show or anything, but I still enjoyed it. You will see them on between movies and will have to check the online schedule to see when one is on.
<<psst>> Not everyone lives in the same time zone.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: California
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Of course it's a matter of opinion. But ratings only tell you whether people are watching it, not the quality of what they're watching. I never watched him on the show. I watched Johnny Carson, and I watched Conan.

In my book, he was bad.
If the quality wasn't good, no one would be watching it!!! But obviously people were watching so much so he was number one.

Conan was a joke!! He couldn't even last one year!! I almost don't even count him as a host of the Tonight Show.
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Old 02-28-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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If the quality wasn't good, no one would be watching it!!! But obviously people were watching so much so he was number one.

Conan was a joke!! He couldn't even last one year!! I almost don't even count him as a host of the Tonight Show.
I'm not a Leno hater, but to be fair Conan was only on for about 3 months. NBC saw a huge ratings loss when Conan first debuted, which should have been expected. The dynamic of the Tonight Show is different now than it was when Parr left and Johnny came aboard for example. Back then it was The Tonight Show or....nothing. By the time Jay left and Conan took over the audience had a lot to choose from. "Their guy" was gone, so they were able to sample everyone else out. NBC SHOULD have stuck with Conan (the way they did with Leno when he was getting his ass whipped by Dave in the ratings in the early 90's) for at least a while to see if he'd catch on. But they did what networks do nowadays and panicked and tried to move Jay back into the 11:35 spot. It worked out for everyone, really. Leno got a few more years with The Tonight Show, NBC got good ratings, and Conan became a multi-millionaire (if he wasn't one already) and still has a show. But, I still believe NBC jumped the gun with a knee jerk reaction to replace Conan.

It's typical of networks now, not to get too far off topic, but we see this all the time. Shows will premier and be cancelled within a week or two without giving them ANY chance to build an audience.

I've used this example before to illustrate how ridiculous the networks are now, but look at a show like CHEERS. It debuted in the early 80's and the ratings were terrible. They wouldn't have made it to episode 3 or 4 nowadays. But, NBC gave them a chance with a second season, and during the summer re-runs they picked up steam. What did NBC get out of that? TWENTY TWO YEARS of highly rated programming (between Cheers and Frasier) plus a couple of great flag ship shows that helped carry tons of other new shows that aired on the same night.

Now, summer reruns have gone away, but networks have a new tool at their disposal: Cable and online streaming services. We've seen so much success of TV shows on those formats that it blows my mind that a network won't take a struggling show and air episodes on their own cable networks or release the first season of struggling shows through streaming services.

But I digress....back on topic, sort of:

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You were a teenager in 1994 so you think that you are too old for pop culture today?
I wasn't even close to being a teenager in 1994, & I don't think I am too old for pop culture today in my 50s!

I don't understand why people can't enjoy a show without the performer being their age.
Jimmy Fallon will do fine on the show. Each host brings something different. If you don't like it, don't watch it!
I think you may have mis-read by post, or I'm misunderstanding yours. I said that I'm very much in tune with pop culture which is why I see the humor in the younger hosts as well as SNL (which I pointed out was not as funny IMO 20 years ago, which is the time the poster I was responding to said the show was great)
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: The Jar
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No they aren't, a movie is on right now, but yes they did air a number of interviews. No the whole show or anything, but I still enjoyed it. You will see them on between movies and will have to check the online schedule to see when one is on.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Tried watching it. Sorry Fallon fans, but it's just putrid, sophomoric nonsense. IMO the show will have very low ratings and possibly fail.

NBC has turned late night into sorry subsets of the SNL show that hasn't been funny or worth watching for 20 years.

Jimmy Kimmel and Craig Ferguson are the only ones we can tolerate.
lol, love the appropriate use of "putrid".

Last night (Thursday) Letterman was hilarious. Maybe I was just in the right mood, but I laughed out loud many times.

Kinda went back and forth between the 3 when the guests were on; none appealed to me.

Fallon has been a huge boost to Letterman's ratings.
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and every joke seemed to be about penis's. .
I think the plural for penis is "peni".


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Old 02-28-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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[quote=Dale Cooper;33678607]lol, love the appropriate use of "putrid".

Last night (Thursday) Letterman was hilarious. Maybe I was just in the right mood, but I laughed out loud many times.

Kinda went back and forth between the 3 when the guests were on; none appealed to me.

Fallon has been a huge boost to Letterman's ratings. /QUOTE]

Agree.

I watched Fallon a few times recently to see what was going on. I used the word putrid as my reaction to a skit where he another guy were in drag and talking in some stupid tone of voice. Then the other night they did a skit of playing charades which was done with the usual SNL style of prancing around like ninnies. I don't "get" that stuff and I sure don't get why the audience roars with laughter every time Fallon wrinkles his nose or blinks his eyes?

Letterman has moved a notch on my list. He has a bit of a nasty edge to him, seems ill-prepared for his interviews while not seeming to care, and his stutter-like repetition of sentence fragments, sometimes as much as four time, drives me nuts.

Fallon is on the bottom of our list, then next up is Letterman, then Kimmel, and at the top of our list is Ferguson.

We don't even watch Conan O'Brien, his time slot is awful and he's a bit like Fallon with the silly stuff. I always hated how he'd walk out, do a bunny hop, shake his necktie, and then spin around; never could figure out what that was all about. Silliness for the sake of silliness? Ugh.

We tend to surf away from all of the interviews (aka talking head segments) as these are inane. The celebs / writers / musicians are only on these shows because they are paying to be there for the product placement value - always pimping a new movie, album, book, show, etc. The dialog for most of these segments is stultifying; Letterman often has no idea what the person is pimping and his lack of interest is obvious.

Letterman will probably benefit from audience segments moving away from the Tonight Show now that Leno has gone, and I think Kimmel will benefit as well. I see Kimmel as being more like Leno than Letterman, i.e., he comes out and makes light of stuff in the news, like Leno did, and like Will Rodgers did decades ago. I wish Kimmel would dump the "ya-ya" dude as this is really worthless and a waste of air time.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Fallon hasn't been a boost to Letterman's ratings. The Tonight show is still winning. LOL

Not that I have a dog in this hunt. I haven't watched Fallon since his premiere episode last week. Its just funny to me how much people are assuming that because they hate him no one is watching him and his ratings are falling through the floor. They are not.

I like Letterman, Fallon, Kimmel AND Stewart. I am so screwed every night.

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Old 02-28-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Fallon hasn't been a boost to Letterman's ratings. The Tonight show is still winning. LOL

Not that I have a dog in this hunt. I haven't watched Fallon since his premiere episode last week. Its just funny to me how much people are assuming that because they hate him no one is watching him and his ratings are falling through the floor. They are not.

I like Letterman, Fallon, Kimmel AND Stewart. I as so screwed every night.
It'll take a few months for the ratings to level off as viewers decide if they'll stay with Fallon or not, by then we'll get a better picture. It's only the second week, it's expected that Fallon would have higher ratings.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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It'll take a few months for the ratings to level off as viewers decide if they'll stay with Fallon or not, by then we'll get a better picture. It's only the second week, it's expected that Fallon would have higher ratings.
One would think, but folks seemed to think otherwise. LOL

Honestly it typically takes a minute for late night talk shows to find footing. Leno got his ass handed to him at the start of his run and I read somewhere that even the great Johnny Carson struggled the first few years. So even if Fallon's ratings level off after a few weeks, it would be relatively normal.
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