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Old 11-09-2013, 01:42 AM
 
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Innocent man released from prison after 34 years being incarcerated...
Man's Murder Conviction Tossed After 34 Years in Prison | NBC Southern California
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:14 AM
 
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Innocent man released from prison after 34 years being incarcerated...
Man's Murder Conviction Tossed After 34 Years in Prison | NBC Southern California
Shows why there shouldn't be Capital Punishment. Poor man. What a nightmare?
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:40 AM
 
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His parents should do some jail time for naming the poor guy "Kash Register"
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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Shows why there shouldn't be Capital Punishment. Poor man. What a nightmare?
  • Also because (supposedly) capital punishment is more costly
  • Also because by killing people we're eliminating free labor. Those in prison should be working for the citizens, picking up trash, cleaning grafitti, washing buses, picking crops, clearing vegetation (fire prevention), general labor, etc. (Might be a good way to ease the dependence on illegal aliens).
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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We can find errors in the justice system. It is not perfect. But, it is better than many other countries.

As for making prisoners do work in the community, there is a problem, most of the people in prison lack a work ethic, making then do work is more work than you can imagine. For the most part, many are coming from homes that are career welfare, and criminal Subsistence. The entitlement mentality is entrenched.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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I wonder what they will do to those who gave false testimony?

Not all inmates are lazy or lack a work ethic. In fact oddly enough, I have found most of the inmates who are behind the fence (not the outside crews) are actually very hard workers.

That is the power of addiction. When they get out, they fall into their old drug routines. There will always be those few who just don't want to work, but most enjoy having a job just to break the routine.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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Why am I not surprise that he is black?
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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  • Also because (supposedly) capital punishment is more costly
  • Also because by killing people we're eliminating free labor. Those in prison should be working for the citizens, picking up trash, cleaning grafitti, washing buses, picking crops, clearing vegetation (fire prevention), general labor, etc. (Might be a good way to ease the dependence on illegal aliens).
Kind of like the labor camps in North Korea and Thailand??
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Why am I not surprise that he is black?
Because despite being only 14% of the population, blacks commit crimes far and above their population %...
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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We can find errors in the justice system. It is not perfect. But, it is better than many other countries.

As for making prisoners do work in the community, there is a problem, most of the people in prison lack a work ethic, making then do work is more work than you can imagine. For the most part, many are coming from homes that are career welfare, and criminal Subsistence. The entitlement mentality is entrenched.
Actually, we have the worst justice system in the entire world. 25% of all people in prison throughout the word are Americans in American jails, so you're many more times likely to be locked up in 'Merika than in any other nation in the world. Moreover, cops don't bother with real bad guys because they're just too hard to find, often well connected, and at the very least, rather dangerous, so it's easier to fine, arrest, and jail faux non-violent people. The cop, district attorney, judge, jail, and all supporting staff are phenominal in this nation. Furthermore, they're some of the laziest people around. Most of their jobs are pointless, and true to form, like most government officials, all they care about is getting the job done. "What? There's a crime been committed? Round up the usual suspects, and we'll pin it on the first mug who doesn't have a decent alibi." Everybody's been trained in this nation that if you're charged with a crime, you're probably guilty. "If you wouldn't lead a questionable lifestyle, you wouldn't have gotten banged up to begin with." Yet every public school kid is erroneously taught, "Innocent until proven guilty." Ha! It's so slanted that people are never found innocent, they are always found "not guilty." That right there is deceptive psychological strategy that stacks the deck against anybody in the box and alludes to a deeper corrupt and unfair system.

Let's make some qualifiers so the folks at home can play. You only have to answer to yourself, so you know whether or not my points apply to you. If common people like the person I've quoted and you reading this would buy domestically manufactured products, stop cheering every time the speculators drive your over inflated home price through the roof, and a boatload of other bad consumerist habits you all have, perhaps there would be jobs out there for people, and one person could support a family of 4 or more like they did in years gone by.

Many prisoners actually have a better work ethic than most of the lazy sods out there reading who've never had to work construction, mining, or factory jobs, yet they think they have a real job and are hard workers. Go do some manual labor and see just how much fun and dangerous it is! I'd put my money on a boy in jail to be able to do hard physical labor than most soft sods out there reading this who're "working" pointless government jobs or shifting bogus numbers about because their korporation bought their way onto the scene, useless government regulations created and protect their jobs, and have forced all the kompetition out of the kountry. Furthermore, I'd suggest taking a trip to the county nick. Most county jails have a slave labor detention system running and are in collusion with local seedy businesses who couldn't run if it wasn't for all the out-mates on work release. They do it in larger prisons as well, and we're seeing more and more private prisons being run for profit.

I think the entitlement mentality is entrenched in people who have things rather than those on the dole/in jail, but nobody wants to look at their personal responsibility as they use their foreign made electronics, drive their foreign cars burning foreign petrol on roadways constructed with foreign products, as they wear their foreign clothing and go to a store to buy more foreign junk. You want to talk about welfare, take a look at all the welfare you get with subsidized food, roadways, and a ton of other services. The internet, public utilities in suburban and rual settings are heavily subsidized and your house taxes or rent doesn't even begin to cover the cost, so the entire nation foots the bill. How many live where natural disasters are always happening? Each time your home's pummeled, the entire nation bails you out. Do you think your tax dollars are funding that because you have a job? Road tax on gas, tires, and oil doesn't even come close to paying your share of the pie for the roadways, governmental agencies that regulate and maintain them. I think people need to start looking hard at the word entitlement because it's in every facet of their "working" fiber.

It's ignorant is bliss attitude like the one I've quoted that let innocent people go to jail for 35 years. We've been slipping into a police state for decades.

Cheers,
bolillo

Last edited by bolillo_loco; 11-10-2013 at 12:47 PM.. Reason: No Rhodes scholar here
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