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If John really knew who their daughter's killer was, he would shut up and never would want to bothered. He keeps giving interviews to anyone for his daughter's memory to stay alive and to find her killer.
Originally Posted by in_newengland View Post Maybe they mean the exact person who did the actual killing. They could still have been involved with a child porn ring and they would have to cover that up to protect their image and to avoid charges of child abuse. But here the trail runs cold again and we don't have the details.
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Originally Posted by docyabut
So your saying that JB was murdered because White`s father belong to a poro ring in Califonia ( is that really even proven?) and White had her killed because he was jealously of the Ramsey's and Pastry wrote the RN to cover his and their involvement in a poro group( is that really even been proven?) When do poro groups go around killing kids? And what mother would cover up her child being murdered.? Sorry but none of that makes sense.
No, I didn't say any of that. I'm saying that it's possible. White's father being involved with a pedophile ring is a possibility but it was discounted for "lack of evidence." No one knows who wrote the ransom note and I never said it was Patsy. I have no idea who wrote it. Porno groups killing kids? I never said that either. What I said was that the death was probably an accident, regardless of who did it. I also said that the only reason I could think of for Patsy covering it up would be to protect someone, maybe even themselves, from something. Maybe something like being charged with child abuse--whether it would stem from being directly involved in the torture or just being involved with the people who did it. If she was covering up, it must have been something very serious for her to allow a cover up to be more important than finding out who her daughter's murderer was. I also said that we will probably never know.
Originally Posted by in_newengland View Post Maybe they mean the exact person who did the actual killing. They could still have been involved with a child porn ring and they would have to cover that up to protect their image and to avoid charges of child abuse. But here the trail runs cold again and we don't have the details.
No, I didn't say any of that. I'm saying that it's possible. White's father being involved with a pedophile ring is a possibility but it was discounted for "lack of evidence." No one knows who wrote the ransom note and I never said it was Patsy. I have no idea who wrote it. Porno groups killing kids? I never said that either. What I said was that the death was probably an accident, regardless of who did it. I also said that the only reason I could think of for Patsy covering it up would be to protect someone, maybe even themselves, from something. Maybe something like being charged with child abuse--whether it would stem from being directly involved in the torture or just being involved with the people who did it. If she was covering up, it must have been something very serious for her to allow a cover up to be more important than finding out who her daughter's murderer was. I also said that we will probably never know.
You don't get branded a child abuser for having pedophile neighbors or an intruder killing your daughter. A jury was willing to sentence them for child abuse. Why? There something the Ramseys are hiding. There is something they know or were involved in.
You don't get branded a child abuser for having pedophile neighbors or an intruder killing your daughter. A jury was willing to sentence them for child abuse. Why? There something the Ramseys are hiding. There is something they know or were involved in.
I don't know if the jury knew something we do not know. I don't study crime very much so I don't know about these things. Based upon what outsiders know, I don't see how they could be branded child abusers.
But if there really was a link between the way she was killed and the sexy pageants, such as a pedophile ring that would be criminal. I don't think we can come to any certain conclusions.
You don't get branded a child abuser for having pedophile neighbors or an intruder killing your daughter. A jury was willing to sentence them for child abuse. Why? There something the Ramseys are hiding. There is something they know or were involved in.
What jury for child abuse ? I know in the beginning the courts indicted them for the murder of their daughter, but it didn't go through because there was no real evidence.
I think what happen the perps went in when the Ramseys went to the dinner party writing that note for money, not wanting to abduct the whole family, pick out the little girl who was the most weakess. After the Ramsey's were home in bed, the perps went to her room and stunned JB with a stun gun in her bed so she could `nt move or scream , not taking the time to tie her up to get her quickly out of the room into the basement. She woke up and screamed at 200am is when they smash her over the head with their the mag flash light, then tying her up with the duct tape over he mouth. They went on waiting to see what the Ramsey would do in the tapping of their phone the day before and after pastry read the RN call 911 the law at 500am, angryly knowing this they knew they would not get their money strangled JB who was still breathing to make sure she was dead and got out the window that they came in.It was still dark outside and went unnoticed .
What jury for child abuse ? I know in the beginning the courts indicted them for the murder of their daughter, but it didn't go through because there was no real evidence.
The one that got pulled and now we have the leaked files. The jury was going to convict them of child abuse.
I think what happen the perps went in when the Ramseys went to the dinner party writing that note for money, not wanting to abduct the whole family, pick out the little girl who was the most weakess. After the Ramsey's were home in bed, the perps went to her room and stunned JB with a stun gun in her bed so she could `nt move or scream , not taking the time to tie her up to get her quickly out of the room into the basement. She woke up and screamed at 200am is when they smash her over the head with their the mag flash light, then tying her up with the duct tape over he mouth. They went on waiting to see what the Ramsey would do in the tapping of their phone the day before and after pastry read the RN call 911 the law at 500am, angryly knowing this they knew they would not get their money strangled JB who was still breathing to make sure she was dead and got out the window that they came in.It was still dark outside and went unnoticed .
I don't understand how if the murderer was a total stranger and the Ramseys had no idea it was going to happen, how they wouldn't notice the killer fleeing. John and Patsy would have been high strung after finding that note. If I had a child, woke up to that note, I would have noticed someone leaving the house. Most normal parents would be so alert at the time, they would hear pins dropping.
The one that got pulled and now we have the leaked files. The jury was going to convict them of child abuse.
On October 25, 2013, court documents sealed in 1999 were released that revealed a 1999 grand jury had indicted John and Patsy Ramsey for child abuse resulting in death and being an accessory to a crime, including murder.
I don't understand how if the murderer was a total stranger and the Ramseys had no idea it was going to happen, how they wouldn't notice the killer fleeing. John and Patsy would have been high strung after finding that note. If I had a child, woke up to that note, I would have noticed someone leaving the house. Most normal parents would be so alert at the time, they would hear pins dropping.
They did`nt even hear her scream at 200 am. It was a big house.
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